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    I've rooted around and tried to dig up info on this. I'm trying to figure out which tribe or tribes roamed the plains of Mongolia? What supernaturals go bump in the night? How far goes the beast court reach? I figure with how remote the area is not many mage orders have reached the area, possibly just Dreamspeakers for now. Technocracy? Doubt it other then occasional members from the asian branch entering the sea of grass to deal with threats.

    Info and ideas would be appreciated, I was debating making asian tribe that would native and unique to the area similar to the Uktena.

  • #2
    Well there is that Legend about giant death worms

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BurritoMage View Post
      Well there is that Legend about giant death worms

      Yeah the Mongolian Death Worms are a thing and the tunnels they bore are also noticed. Large cave tunnels with perfect smoothness with a faint acidic smell. This is a place Bygones might be able to manifest, Mongolia has not changed in form of faith since its early days.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Freederp92 View Post
        Mongolia has not changed in form of faith since its early days.
        That's actually not entirely true. The spread of Buddhism in the 16th century had a significant impact on Mongolian culture and religious practice that persists to this day. Seven decades of communism have also shaped Mongolian cultural and spiritual life in profound ways that it is in many respects only recently emerging from, and it will be some time before the extent of its influence can really be assessed.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Caitiff Primogen View Post
          That's actually not entirely true. The spread of Buddhism in the 16th century had a significant impact on Mongolian culture and religious practice that persists to this day. Seven decades of communism have also shaped Mongolian cultural and spiritual life in profound ways that it is in many respects only recently emerging from, and it will be some time before the extent of its influence can really be assessed.
          True I forgot to account of the spread of Buddhism and the reign of communism.

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          • #6
            If you're looking for some crazy historical shit with occult influences to mine for a Mongolian supernatural setting, this is the guy you are looking for.

            The Bloody White Baron

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            • #7
              Werewolf-wise, the Silent Striders, Uktena, Red Talons, Stargazers, and maybe Shadow Lords would be the most prevalent, IIRC. With the Fera, I think native fauna limit them to mostly Kitsune, Ratkin, and Corax.

              With Mages, the two biggest influences are going to be traditional Tengrism and Tibetan Buddhism, so you've got Dreamspeakers, the Akashic Brotherhood and to a lesser extent Ahl i Batan and Celestial Chorus. Also, the small shamanist society known as the Sons of Tengri.


              What is tolerance? It is the consequence of humanity. We are all formed of frailty and error; let us pardon reciprocally each other's folly. That is the first law of nature.
              Voltaire, "Tolerance" (1764)

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              • #8
                I personally place the Shadow Lords as the dominant tribe on the steppes there. I would also place some Stargazers on the local mountains. Possible Silver Fangs from the House of Blood Rest Crest. Bone Gnawers could also be present as rats live on the steppes (and they likely have plague reservoirs there).

                The other tribes would likely be completely absent, or perhaps a few visitors.

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                • #9
                  I would probably go with Stargazers, Silver Fangs, Silent Striders, and Wendigo.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by No One of Consequence View Post
                    Werewolf-wise, the Silent Striders, Uktena, Red Talons, Stargazers, and maybe Shadow Lords would be the most prevalent, IIRC. With the Fera, I think native fauna limit them to mostly Kitsune, Ratkin, and Corax.
                    Wind From the East also had Khan and Middle Dragons present. Shadow Lords Revised mentioned that there was a major division of the tribe there. Stargazers, if we believe the low numbers that they're supposed to have, will be among the least common of Garou there, or anywhere for that matter.

                    With Mages, the two biggest influences are going to be traditional Tengrism and Tibetan Buddhism, so you've got Dreamspeakers, the Akashic Brotherhood and to a lesser extent Ahl i Batan and Celestial Chorus. Also, the small shamanist society known as the Sons of Tengri.
                    They'd probably be more with the Disparates than the Traditions.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post

                      Wind From the East also had Khan and Middle Dragons present. Shadow Lords Revised mentioned that there was a major division of the tribe there. Stargazers, if we believe the low numbers that they're supposed to have, will be among the least common of Garou there, or anywhere for that matter.
                      Sadly, the tiger no longer appears to exist in Mongolia, so there are probably no longer any native Khan outside the rare elder or younger homid-born member.
                      (However, the snow leopard still lives in the region. I don't recall an official answer ever given about their prevalence among the Baghera, but in my own personal WoD, I've always seen them as the third, East Asian/Beast Courts branch of that tribe alongside the Indian/South Asian and African ones.)

                      There do not appear to be any crocodilian species native to Mongolia, and dragons seem to have never played a huge role in the culture's mythology or imagery. So, Zhong Lung are likely to be transplants or homid-born, I suspect. A pity that, as I like the Zhong Lung.

                      I've never really grokked the idea that the Stargazers are somehow supposed to be super rare (more so than the Red Talons). Their traditional stomping grounds exist at a geographic crossroads of Buddhism, Hinduism, Sufism, and Tengrism, which always offered up too many concepts and ideas for me to short sell them.

                      They'd probably be more with the Disparates than the Traditions.
                      I was listing mystic groups in general, not just Traditions.

                      It occurs to me that there may be the odd (in more ways than one) Taftini in Mongolia. Tengrism is not all that incompatible with their mystical beliefs (that I'm aware of, at least).

                      Also, psychics (or Orphan "psychics") left over from Soviet era research experiments.


                      What is tolerance? It is the consequence of humanity. We are all formed of frailty and error; let us pardon reciprocally each other's folly. That is the first law of nature.
                      Voltaire, "Tolerance" (1764)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by No One of Consequence View Post

                        Sadly, the tiger no longer appears to exist in Mongolia, so there are probably no longer any native Khan outside the rare elder or younger homid-born member.
                        (However, the snow leopard still lives in the region. I don't recall an official answer ever given about their prevalence among the Baghera, but in my own personal WoD, I've always seen them as the third, East Asian/Beast Courts branch of that tribe alongside the Indian/South Asian and African ones.)

                        There do not appear to be any crocodilian species native to Mongolia, and dragons seem to have never played a huge role in the culture's mythology or imagery. So, Zhong Lung are likely to be transplants or homid-born, I suspect. A pity that, as I like the Zhong Lung.
                        Well, it is a Vampire book, so there's also that.

                        I've never really grokked the idea that the Stargazers are somehow supposed to be super rare (more so than the Red Talons). Their traditional stomping grounds exist at a geographic crossroads of Buddhism, Hinduism, Sufism, and Tengrism, which always offered up too many concepts and ideas for me to short sell them.
                        Stargazers are supposed to be rare seer types and people Chimera tapped for what seems like primarily intellectual reasons. A number of other tribes pick up the slack at the same crossroads, which makes the continual painting of Stargazers as "the Asian tribe" that much more terrible.

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                        • #13
                          Are there any unique supernatural creatures to the region? Any Bygones that call the Steppes home? I can see the possibility of Wraiths hiding in dark places, the land was drenched in much blood over the years especially during the times of Genghis Khan and onward.

                          I'm having a hard time find resources for myths of the sea of grass.

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                          • #14
                            Iirc there are a vampire Clan named "Anda".

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                            • #15
                              Speaking of vampires in Mongolia:
                              Among the Kindred we have Anda (a Gangrel bloodline), Gangrel (in general) and probably some Ravnos. Plus, some Wu Zao Salubri acting as shamans and holy men and wise women. It wouldn't surprise me if some really old Noiad are in torpor, there, too.
                              Among the Kindred of the East, just about any Dharma might be found. I don't imagine Bone Shadows would be abundant, though they would be there.
                              Last edited by Demigod Beast; 04-18-2017, 09:19 PM.

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