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  • The Twelve Totems of the chinese Zodiac

    I'm doing a thing for chinese New Years for a Hengeyokai thing and am trying to match 12 Totems to the 12 Zodiac animals some are easy some not so much if people can make suggestions with where the Totem is from that would be Great.


    Rat-This one is pretty easy, rat is rat!
    Ox- This I'm not so sure on, is there an Ox out there?
    Tiger-I think there are a couple of Tiger Totems, not sure which would be the best one here.
    Rabbit-Hare is pretty obvious so I think that works.
    Dragon-ok here i get a couple of options again not sure which would be the best.
    Snake-Outside Adder I'm drawing a blank here.
    Horse-well Horse is in DA:werewolf so that should work here I think.
    Goat-I'm drawing a blank here.
    Monkey-Monkey King would be obvious but that might not be right, I know there are other monkey Totems though...
    Rooster-I think he's a totem in the Fianna book.
    Dog-he's sitting right there in the Hengeyokai book so pretty easy.
    Pig/Boar-kind of stumpped.

  • #2
    Boar is in the revised edition core book. Bull and Goat are in Players Guide to the Garou. (I dont know about WW20.)


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    • #3
      Originally posted by No One of Consequence View Post
      Boar is in the revised edition core book. Bull and Goat are in Players Guide to the Garou. (I dont know about WW20.)

      Its good enough to help me look.

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      • #4
        Id have to look, but I think Cobra is in Silent Striders rev. Crocodile might work for Dragon.


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        • #5
          I think the Asian interpretation of a Dragon totem is in the Hengoyaki book.

          Rattle Snake was in Wild West, but that's more of Native totem than what you'd find in East Asia.

          You also might want to research different cultures' animal symbolism. They can vary wildly (like bats are symbols of luck in China and Japan for instance). These are incarna and they have many forms.
          Last edited by Onkwe; 02-09-2018, 08:31 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Onkwe View Post
            I think the Asian interpretation of a Dragon totem is in the Hengoyaki book.
            He is not, However Seiryuu is in the Stargazer book, which is kind of close.

            You also might want to research different cultures' animal symbolism. They can vary wildly (like bats are symbols of luck in China and Japan for instance). These are incarna and they have many forms.
            That is true, I still wanted to see what was already available before adapting especially since there will be western trained types there who might have some different interpretations.

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            • #7
              Rat- Rat
              Ox- Heng-115
              Tiger- Bya-Akko the White Tiger-SG2-81, Tiger-Heng-115
              Rabbit- Rabbit-W2-80, Hare-Wisdom-Wolf-52, Hare-Heng-114
              Dragon-PG1-167, PG2-160, Mokole-63, Seiryuu the Azure Dragon-SG2-81, Ngalyod the Rainbow Serpent-Aust-137, Green Dragon-Wyrm1-77 & Wyrm2-103, Uktena
              Snake- Adder-PGG-137, Anaconda-Amazon-113, Cobra-SS2-84, Rattlesnake-West-287
              Horse-DA2-228
              Goat-PG2-123, PGG-142
              Monkey-Monkey King-GW1-54, GW2-82, Ika-Ika the Monkey King-Bastet-142
              Rooster-F1-52
              Dog- Heng-114, World-32
              Pig/Boar- F1-51, GoF1-50, WWR-295, W20-374

              Hope this helps
              Last edited by Derzhuzad; 02-09-2018, 08:55 PM. Reason: Edit: Forgot the actual tiger totem lol

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lian View Post

                He is not, However Seiryuu is in the Stargazer book, which is kind of close.
                Not really. The zodiac Dragon figure is outrageously-acting, direct, and proud, rather than a liminal guardian of mysteries. The Mokole totem isn't actually all that far off, though you'll need to fit in a bringer of rain, so Typhon might also be oddly close.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post

                  Not really. The zodiac Dragon figure is outrageously-acting, direct, and proud, rather than a liminal guardian of mysteries. The Mokole totem isn't actually all that far off, though you'll need to fit in a bringer of rain, so Typhon might also be oddly close.

                  Yeah Typhon seems to fit best to me.


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post

                    Not really. The zodiac Dragon figure is outrageously-acting, direct, and proud, rather than a liminal guardian of mysteries. The Mokole totem isn't actually all that far off, though you'll need to fit in a bringer of rain, so Typhon might also be oddly close.

                    That is More snake isn't it.. hmmmmm

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lian View Post


                      That is More snake isn't it.. hmmmmm
                      Not for the Chinese Zodiac, and not for the art of Typhon in the Revised Shadow Lords tribebook, no. Snake in the zodiac is rather measured and cautious, and is noted for being able to keep the Dragon from engaging in excessive, all-out measures or intervening in every matter that he comes across.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post

                        Not for the Chinese Zodiac, and not for the art of Typhon in the Revised Shadow Lords tribebook, no. Snake in the zodiac is rather measured and cautious, and is noted for being able to keep the Dragon from engaging in excessive, all-out measures or intervening in every matter that he comes across.

                        Right I mean the way you described Seiryuu might match Zodiac snake better.. or maybe Uktena. The other snakes seem almost too regional.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Lian View Post


                          Right I mean the way you described Seiryuu might match Zodiac snake better.. or maybe Uktena. The other snakes seem almost too regional.
                          Uktena does fit the secretive and knowledgeable feeling of Snake.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post

                            Uktena does fit the secretive and knowledgeable feeling of Snake.

                            By the games interpretation of Uktena this could work, but the source its drawn from is a lot more complicated. It has more to do with crossing cosmological boundries and death, but that's all I want to say about it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Onkwe View Post


                              By the games interpretation of Uktena this could work, but the source its drawn from is a lot more complicated. It has more to do with crossing cosmological boundries and death, but that's all I want to say about it.

                              Yeah I figured with Game setup Uktena could potentially be reskinned as Snake in the Zodiac either under a difference "Face" or a similar enough spirit. I wouldn't at all say the real world basis was the same.

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