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  • How would DNA React to tables being turned?

    Wondered this a bit how would DNA agents react to the tables being turned and being captured by the very beings they are trying to 'cure'

    Indignant "Dont you see we were trying to help you!" Angry "You have no right to do anything to me!" or what?

    please no 'Presses hidden button and the tables are turned yet again!' responses.



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    The problem is: If you want to convice a DNA footsolid about the spiritual superiority / purity / inheritance of the Garou you will break the Veil.

    You could use high level Gifts / Rites to bypass the problem, but few character have acess to these goodies. And of course there is the RAGE what can drive our heroes to manslaughter even with their best intend in their hearts.


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    • #3
      fair points. So do you think DNA would be more apt to whining "You have no right to hold us" or" Dont you get we were trying to help you Poor people!?!?!"


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      • #4
        If you've been captured by terrible monsters, I don't think that you would whine about them violating your rights. They would be more likely to either beg for their lives or try to convince the Garou to let them go.

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        • #5
          To be fair, Rage is a real curse. I imagine many introspective Garou would respond positively to someone who was honest about wanting to "cure" them, even if they didn't agree with them.

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          • #6
            but rage also causes a sense of superiority over humans RIGHTFULLY so.

            I dont see the garou letting them go with a slap on the wrist

            Saw it happen in 2 separate games and it IRKED me something feirce.

            I would either send them back as a spy or saboteur possibly using either Geas, or the threat of a Fetish Doll or Candle of Souls to guarantee compliance.

            or else.... deal with them as they deserve.


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            • #7
              Originally posted by Prince of the Night View Post
              but rage also causes a sense of superiority over humans RIGHTFULLY so.
              No, that's what cultural inculcation in the Garou Nation does. Rage just makes someone fly off the handle readily because they're basically 10,000% through with everything.

              I dont see the garou letting them go with a slap on the wrist

              Saw it happen in 2 separate games and it IRKED me something feirce.

              I would either send them back as a spy or saboteur possibly using either Geas, or the threat of a Fetish Doll or Candle of Souls to guarantee compliance.

              or else.... deal with them as they deserve.
              Countermeasures and forced double agent status are likely, but Fetish Doll is a bit limited in application and most DNA staff aren't the type that are likely to believe it works unless you use it right in front of them in a really obvious, really painful manner, which may ruin it a bit for something that you hang over a double agent's head, since you're going to be one to three levels down already. Some Shadow Lords might also dust off the Curse of the Wolf and use it on the hapless agent before letting them go "free", though likely only if they're sure that the agent is going to end up collected by their handlers without delay.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post

                No, that's what cultural inculcation in the Garou Nation does. Rage just makes someone fly off the handle readily because they're basically 10,000% through with everything.



                Countermeasures and forced double agent status are likely, but Fetish Doll is a bit limited in application and most DNA staff aren't the type that are likely to believe it works unless you use it right in front of them in a really obvious, really painful manner, which may ruin it a bit for something that you hang over a double agent's head, since you're going to be one to three levels down already. Some Shadow Lords might also dust off the Curse of the Wolf and use it on the hapless agent before letting them go "free", though likely only if they're sure that the agent is going to end up collected by their handlers without delay.
                On fetish Doll you can collect extra vials of blood and locks of hair and hold them for making a doll latter

                Hopefully, the person doesnt figure out how much trouble it is to make that kind of thing.

                Can also use Candle of Sou's (From Hammer and klaive) To strike at a remote Target

                On Curse of the Wolf

                That would be funny!

                Seeing all those scientists butchered by one of their own , then for him to emerge from Frenzy covered in his friends blood.

                (Edit: Oh sorry Gifts name is MARK of the wolf) what do you think of Mark of the wolf forcing a Scientist to exhibit the curse for a few days would hopefull hurt their office cohesion.


                or maybe infallible argument of logic, giving them an unshakable belief in the holiness of the beings he was trying to "Cure" or would that make him not want to go back?
                Last edited by Prince of the Night; 03-25-2018, 03:07 PM.


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Prince of the Night View Post

                  On fetish Doll you can collect extra vials of blood and locks of hair and hold them for making a doll latter

                  Hopefully, the person doesnt figure out how much trouble it is to make that kind of thing.

                  Can also use Candle of Sou's (From Hammer and klaive) To strike at a remote Target
                  The trick is mostly in making the threat clear. DNA scientists are extremely close-minded about things like that, and at least some would probably go to their deaths insisting that magic doesn't exist.

                  On Curse of the Wolf

                  That would be funny!

                  Seeing all those scientists butchered by one of their own , then for him to emerge from Frenzy covered in his friends blood.

                  (Edit: Oh sorry Gifts name is MARK of the wolf) what do you think of Mark of the wolf forcing a Scientist to exhibit the curse for a few days would hopefull hurt their office cohesion.


                  or maybe infallible argument of logic, giving them an unshakable belief in the holiness of the beings he was trying to "Cure" or would that make him not want to go back?
                  No, I was referring to the punishment rite from Werewolf: the Dark Ages. Though subjecting them to the Curse would probably work for less directly vengeful purposes, too, it can also be done without letting them know that you're onto them.

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                  • #10
                    I know the rite Curse of the wolf, first rite I understood, glancing through the dark ages bookj before I knew the terminology.

                    (I had started to think of the gift then corrected my post Sorry for confusion)




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                    • #11
                      Oh Ideas how other hunter groups would react, if a first team was captured alive? Ideas what they would say?


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                      • #12
                        How would any group outside PENTEX know if one of their First Teams were captured? I think most hunter groups would be ignorant of it.

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                        • #13
                          Whatever form of humiliation and torture puts the biggest smile on your face, I guess?


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                          • #14
                            I meant if captured alive how they'd react

                            first teams were one group I was suggesting

                            they and SAD.

                            First teams are a lot more blatantly brainwashed.

                            SAD would probaly treat even captivity and impending death as a chance to learn info even though they cant take it back.


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