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    Can someone explain the benefits of having a level five caern over a level one?

    tyty

  • #2
    There are several benefits for having a more powerful caern. Here are some of them.

    1) Caerns with higher ratings can make moon bridges go a longer distance.

    2) Caerns pf higher ratings are supposed to be better at the kind of powers that caern has. For example, a Caern of Healing at Rank 1 might only heal minor wounds, but Rank 5 can heal the most grievous wounds.

    3) The higher rank the caern, the lower the Gauntlet allowing travel between the Realm and Umbra much easier (and making it easier to do certain rites like the Rite of Summoning, or anything else that requires piercing the Gauntler).

    4) When using the Rite of the Opened Caern, the Garou uses a dice pool equal to the caern rank when using its power.

    5) The caern's power can be used as many time in a 24 hour period equal to its rank. So the higher rank, the more times it can be used.

    6) The higher rank the caern, the more powerful the spirit that is the caern totem, so it will have more powers and a bigger Essence to use them.

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    • #3
      Is there a more solid write up for 2 and 6? I've seen suggestion of them before but the mechanics of such.

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      • #4
        7) It's tradition to use a Caern with a Rank equal or greater to the level of a Gift you're trying to learn. Residents of a higher Ranked Caern have easier times learning Gifts since the spirits aren't going to demand/be as demanding with chiminage, and the Caern is in a position of power to trade access for favors/etc. from Garou living at lower Rank Caerns that don't want to constantly shell out for chiminage to make up for summoning spirits disrespectfully to lesser places. Though this benefit is very reliant on the ST to enforce/make count to make that Black Fox covered.

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        • #5
          @ 7) I think its not only tradition but a requisite. If you can summon the spirit in question or ask someone to perform the summon, you have to travel to a caern of that level to find a spirit able to teach that levels gift.

          @ 2) and 5) is there a source to this information? I can't recall that. Is it from W20 books ?

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          • #6
            W20, page 151:

            "Most often, a werewolf must either petition a particular spirit to teach her its powers or ask an elder to summon that spirit on her behalf. Traditionally, the Garou first travels to a caern with a power level equal to or greater than that of the desired Gift to petition the spirit personally — to do otherwise is to defy tradition, which risks incurring the wrath of the spirit. But as more caerns fall to the talons of the Wyrm, many Garou are forced to make do with whatever places of power they can find, or even to summon spirits outside of caerns completely. Such slighted spirits often demand recompense or service before consenting to share their blessings."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Heavy Arms View Post
              W20, page 151:
              "Most often, a werewolf must either petition a particular spirit to teach her its powers or ask an elder to summon that spirit on her behalf. Traditionally, the Garou first travels to a caern with a power level equal to or greater than that of the desired Gift to petition the spirit personally — to do otherwise is to defy tradition, which risks incurring the wrath of the spirit. But as more caerns fall to the talons of the Wyrm, many Garou are forced to make do with whatever places of power they can find, or even to summon spirits outside of caerns completely. Such slighted spirits often demand recompense or service before consenting to share their blessings."
              Oh, okay. That is an altered paragraph with W20, I think.

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              • #8
                Not significantly. Revised's wording is different (and puts more stress on werewolf disdain rather than spirits, but both are present) but the functional result is the same. 2e's setup is slightly different, but the overall dynamic remains "go to a Caern of sufficient power or find the spirit some other way and deal with the spirit not liking that."

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