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How come Gaia never punished the Garou for the War of Rage?

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  • Black Fox
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    The question assumes that "Gaia" is a personal force that actively directs and takes action. There is little evidence that is so despite some mythological tales that treat her like a person taking actions. Garou can barely communicate with the Incarna much less the Celestines and Gaia. Gaia certainly exists, but what exactly that means is up for a lot of debate.

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  • Saur Ops Specialist
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    This is one of the points covered in a broad, shotgun essay in the 2nd edition player's guide. Essentially, it's as Dwight and Gryffon15 mentioned - the consequences are the punishment. Every bad move has had terrible consequences. None of them have served up a cosmic slap on the wrist; as Heavy Arms notes, that doesn't seem to be the way that Gaia operates. Even the Nagah only come into situations if the penal systems of the parent Khurah have failed to bring the offender to justice.

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  • Heavy Arms
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    Gaia is kind of in a shit situation. Assuming she can/would directly interfere, if she smacks the Garou down too hard, then she's out of the majority of her servants on the mortal plane.

    The books also generally suggest that (at least through Gaia's Avatars and so on) that Gaia isn't really that into punishing her children despite their sins (which raises some questions about certain splats), and wants to guide them to be better instead.

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  • Gryffon15
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    The Garou, in many respects, are the authors of their own suffering. Thus the central nature of the 'Sins of the Father' theme.

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  • Dwight
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    I mean she didn't replace any of the breeds so in a way thats punishment enough

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  • nikink
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    I tend to view Harano as Gaia's punishment.

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  • Shakanaka
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    I don't really see the Garou being punished directly by Gaia at all. It's mostly as you said Humans who are letting the Wyrm and the Weaver flourish. But I never seen anything wrong happen to the Garou. Also the other Fera in the other continents who never experienced the War of Rage like the Garou instigated are abated by the Wyrm just as much, despite being at full numbers of equal distributed Breeds.

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  • Gryffon15
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    Well, how do we know that she didn't?

    Also, honestly, the garou are reaping what they're sowing already. The garou are being punished for the war of rage in the same way that humans are being punished by the earth for driving plenty of animals into extinction that disturb their ecosystems.

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