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  • Is it just me or those becoming a drone seem like a pretty good deal?

    You don’t age, your bodily flaws dissipate, along with most mental ones, you get lots of cool powers, and you don’t have a literal evil worm thing in your soul.

    Even the no fee will thing can seem good as you finally have a purpose.

  • Penelope
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    @Lian That makes a lot of sense. Thanks.

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  • Lian
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    Originally posted by Penelope View Post

    True lol. I meant I still wouldn’t wanna play a Drone PC.
    I've thought of Possessed as for people who thought holding onto Humanity in vampire was too easy and the drop there not like rollercoaster. Its a short and horrifically tragic story unless someone saves you.

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  • Penelope
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    Originally posted by Lian View Post


    Its possession.. its not meant to sound appealing. I mean would Demon wears you as a skinsuit sound awesome even the new "you" get Demon powers?
    True lol. I meant I still wouldn’t wanna play a Drone PC.

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  • Isator Levi
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    Originally posted by Black Fox View Post

    Fomori are just a simple way to explain monstrous humans and animals and how they can be created. You can map those monsters to traditional, easily recognize monsters found in folklore and pop culture.
    This seems like a standard that is remarkably hostile towards originality.

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  • Lian
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    Originally posted by Penelope View Post
    I read the section on Drones in Possessed. Vampire, shapeshifter and mage Drones are actually pretty cool but I still wouldn’t want to be one.

    Its possession.. its not meant to sound appealing. I mean would Demon wears you as a skinsuit sound awesome even the new "you" get Demon powers?

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  • Penelope
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    I read the section on Drones in Possessed. Vampire, shapeshifter and mage Drones are actually pretty cool but I still wouldn’t want to be one.

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  • Lian
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    Originally posted by Black Fox View Post

    Fomori are just a simple way to explain monstrous humans and animals and how they can be created. You can map those monsters to traditional, easily recognize monsters found in folklore and pop culture.

    The kind of creatures called Drones, however, do not easily match up.

    I admit that many of the published kind of fomori don't match either. But I tend not to use those either.

    I think you're kind of reaching there since yeah NONE of the Formori in the books work like that. Drones I feel dig into Cosmic horror tropes I can definately see them in Lovecraftian themes a cold uncaring alien intelligence changing people into something "other". Of course this does require a Weaver focused "Werewolves from Cosmic horror" type game but then Drones requires a different focus game than Wyrm smashy.

    Honestly I'd say Gorgons and Kami are the more... cable types. Especially the Kami.

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  • Penelope
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    I just read the first page of Possessed and it literally says “Drones did not exist before the end of the 20th century.”

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  • Penelope
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    Drones are really a 20th (and 21st) century phenomenon. They weren’t a recognized trope back in the 18th and 19th century when Gothic literature was taking form. You can definitely use them, they’re part of the Triat, but they’re not really Gothic.

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  • Black Fox
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    Originally posted by Isator Levi View Post
    Your interpretation of Gothic Horror is exceedingly broad.
    Since the world is the canvas for the game setting, it needs to be. You can do Gothic Horror in a wilderness setting, or among shamanistic peoples. It's a matter of mood, certain themes, and certain tropes.

    Originally posted by Isator Levi View Post
    They're people possessed by spirits. That's in the Bible.
    Not any spirits I would normally recognize. "Spirits that turn you into the Borg," would cause a lot of people to scratch their heads. Thus requiring more a lot more information to be provided. Drones, or something like it, is not a conventional trope of Gothic Horror. Especially not one presumably based on traditional monsters from folklore like vampires, ghosts, werewolves, etc. Nor is it something that fits into typical Gothic themes of enhanced emotional response, brooding landscapes, ancient legacies, or mystery.

    To me, it is detracting from the themes I enjoy most.

    Originally posted by Isator Levi View Post
    You're really making a mountain out of a molehill.
    It seems to me that you are the one doing that. All I am doing is not using one element that I don't think fits into the mood of the game. Why are you so bothered about how I run my own games and my own personal tastes?

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  • Black Fox
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    Originally posted by Lian View Post
    What is your opinion on Formori then? They would seem to have all the same issues.
    Fomori are just a simple way to explain monstrous humans and animals and how they can be created. You can map those monsters to traditional, easily recognize monsters found in folklore and pop culture.

    The kind of creatures called Drones, however, do not easily match up.

    I admit that many of the published kind of fomori don't match either. But I tend not to use those either.

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  • Isator Levi
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    Originally posted by Black Fox View Post

    Except the shamanism and nature worship are natural parts of the setting because they are based on real life. One can do a Gothic Horror story or game setting using those elements, because those are real world elements.
    Your interpretation of Gothic Horror is exceedingly broad.

    Originally posted by Black Fox
    I don't find Drones to be organic to the setting because there isn't really folklore or pop culture surrounding people suddenly being "assimilated" by some mysterious force.
    They're people possessed by spirits. That's in the Bible.

    Originally posted by Black Fox
    I would have to keep adding explanation upon explanation until I run out of run on the index card. It only makes sense when you already have the concept of the Weaver, which you then have to explain, and then you have to explain the Triat, and then you need to compare Drones to the Fomori and explain them, because only once you have the concept of Fomori down does it make sense why the Weaver has its own version.
    "The biggest spirits embody order, chaos and decay. Their servants possess people sometimes."

    You're really making a mountain out of a molehill.

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  • Lian
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    Originally posted by Black Fox View Post



    I think Drones are like Cable. They require very specific references to other unique WoD elements. It's not something one would "get" if you told them about a game where you play classic monsters like vampires, werewolves, ghosts, and mummies. To me, it seems like a jarring element and takes me out of suspension of disbelief. The same way as if I included a Dune spiceworm. Neither Drones nor the Dune spiceworm make sense to this setting, in my mind.

    Like always, everyone's taste is different.
    What is your opinion on Formori then? They would seem to have all the same issues.

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  • Pleiades
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    Originally posted by Isator Levi View Post
    Oh yes, I'm sure that you could.
    it's that easy

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