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  • Seeking Longevity/Agelessness: Non Wyrm Spirits to Pact With

    Which ones would be good/interesting to seek out and make a pact with?

  • #2
    Chronos, which might be an aspect of Luna, someone told me, not sure where this is founded on.

    There was a 2nd Edition Gift that was turned into a Rite in revised Edition, that allowed to turn dead Fianna into Sleeping Beauties, to return when their Land was in grave danger.

    Wewaupet is immortal, but also cut of from the material world because of.... well the crossover explanation says so.
    Other garou have disconnected simply by being in the umbra too long and are now, for convenience, treated as ancestor spirits. That makes them immortal, basically.

    Gaia herself, granted wolf a resurrection once, turning his fur white. Guess who the Silver Fangs claim descendancy from. Ivory Priesthood is seeking out the secrets of death, but Gurahl and, iirc, Nuwisha are the only ones to truly resurrect. Not really immortality, though.

    Kitsune gain an additional human live span per tail, and a tail per rank, iirc. With their legendary leader having nine tails and possibly immortality.




    There was once an NPC, who was a CoG Metis who was believed to have died with his pack in an warehouse explosion, fighting fomori. But his body was recovered and sold to those Cappadocians that re-emerged in the 2000s. There he was tortured and eventually starved until in a frenzy he ate his den mothers former lover (basically his adoptive father), who his torturers had kidnapped and put into the same cell for.... scientific study in the field of willpower.
    Having lost all hope and being corrupted in many ways, albeit forcefully, he died. One would assume CoG souls would be reborn, but that wouldn't make a good story for the players, so in accordance with Wild West's "Ghost Towns" he, being totally separated from the Gaian ways, became a wraith. As a wraith however, he began a quest of redemption, eventually getting into an agreement with his shadow, to rise again. So, when included into the game in 2015, he was a constantly crinos, undead, remorseful CoG Risen. Basically immortal.
    Of course the PCs eventually mercy killed him, well, because he was a zombie and with his shadow always in his mind he was also basically a schizophrenic. Or at least that is what the PCs used as justification to end his existence. Little do they know, that the way they chose to kill him send his soul into Oblivion, not Transcendence - a soul of a garou lost forever...


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    In any way, garou aren't meant to live forever. It is unnatural.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by omenseer View Post
      Which ones would be good/interesting to seek out and make a pact with?
      Queen Ananasa. As long as it serves her goals, she could grant longevity. The Ananasi Tomas Hogarth has been alive since the 1600s.
      Fun fact: in Polish Królowa Ananasa (Queen Ananasa) means the same as 'queen of the pineapple'.
      Last edited by Muad'Dib; 11-04-2020, 09:30 AM.

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      • #4
        Phoenix, you just keep coming back.

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        • #5
          I used to question similar ones

          http://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/m...-achieve-these

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          • #6
            Living beyond what Gaia intended to be your life's natural lifespan can probably be done only through the Wyrm. But I would rule it could be possible for a Garou to live to the maximum extent of her natural life (around 120-130 years for a homid, a little less for metis and lupus) and to minimize the effects of aging if you could find such a spirit.

            In older editions, they had a chart you would roll on for a Garou reaching 70 years of age (once each year), so it might mean such boons mean the character always rolls a 1 on the chart (this does not mean he does not suffer the effects of aging at all, since the Garou is supposed to add a +1 for every five years after 70 and a +1 for any battle scars, these modifiers being cumulative) or has a negative modifier to the roll. That being so, a blessed Garou with no battle scars could reach the age of 90 before he showed any signs of infirmity due to age. And even then, if a trait is affected, the character still rolls a die against difficulty 7 to see if it is lost. So the Garou still has a 40% chance of not suffering any negative effect. And maybe such spirit boons might lower that difficulty.

            I think any Garou who would be active and seemingly not suffering from the expected infirmities of age being 100 or so, would probably be considered to be amazing. And could even be active - though not at fighting strength - well into his 120s before he dies peacefully. Of course, such a Garou might also choose death in battle as more fitting before his time is up.

            Going down this route, I would be looking for spirits who material correspondence are particularly long lived and healthy among Gaia's creatures. Certain trees would be a good choice (giant redwood, bristlecone pine, mediterranean cypress, olive trees for example) as would animals like giant tortoises, bowhead whale, and the Greenland shark. These spirits might know the "secrets" of long life that still adhere to Gaian principles and might possibly be friendly enough to a Garou to share them. Most likely not, as this is obviously not something that happens, but just possibly might be willing for a truly worthy hero who provides incredible chiminage. Trees, as plants, don't like Garou with a lot of Rage so that could be one obstacle and are somewhat alien to animals like Garou. Turtle was once a benefactor of Garou, but has turned his back since the Croatan died. And usually Garou don't have strong relationships with sea creatures. But I think good scenarios could be generated for all of them.

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            • #7
              Ananasa or weaver spirits is an interesting idea.

              I should have mentioned, but this is for a mortal wanting to extend her life to have more time with her vampire husband. She does not want to become a vampire.

              What sort of things might Ananasa ask of a mortal?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by omenseer View Post
                Ananasa or weaver spirits is an interesting idea.

                I should have mentioned, but this is for a mortal wanting to extend her life to have more time with her vampire husband. She does not want to become a vampire.

                What sort of things might Ananasa ask of a mortal?
                https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/An...aws_of_Ananasa

                Actions that might bring balance to the Triat, or attempts to understand members of the Triat, could score highly with her.
                There is the "Know your enemy" tenet, with the follow-up of informing any nearby Ananasi about what has been learned. Considering the woman in question has dealings with Vampires, she could be a useful source of information.
                Possibly sabotaging the actions of Fera other than the Ananasi, or sabotaging Mages or Vampires.
                Maybe promoting knowledge and respect for spiders in human society?

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                • #9
                  Ghouls do live a long time.
                  Fera might need to fail a Gnosis roll, iirc, to not vomit vitae and be ghoule-able.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by omenseer View Post
                    Ananasa or weaver spirits is an interesting idea.

                    I should have mentioned, but this is for a mortal wanting to extend her life to have more time with her vampire husband. She does not want to become a vampire.

                    What sort of things might Ananasa ask of a mortal?
                    Probably offer Dronehood.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Dwight View Post
                      Phoenix, you just keep coming back.
                      A Phoenix rises from the ashes, again and again!

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                      • #12
                        The OP mentioned a mortal wanting to live longer to be with a vampire husband. I think that since vampires are part of the Wyrm, it would be unlikely Garou and their friendly spirits would want to assist them.

                        Otherwise, the rest of the advice is good if you're not doing a Mage crossover.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by baakyocalder View Post
                          The OP mentioned a mortal wanting to live longer to be with a vampire husband. I think that since vampires are part of the Wyrm, it would be unlikely Garou and their friendly spirits would want to assist them.

                          Otherwise, the rest of the advice is good if you're not doing a Mage crossover.
                          That is an interesting angle to consider.

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                          • #14
                            Mage is where you go...?

                            Not directly to the Spell of Life. Being a mummy is immortality.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Damian May View Post

                              Probably offer Dronehood.

                              Further to this becoming a Drone is probably the easiest path to immortality but it does come with a laundry list of drawbacks, so cozy up to the Weaver and see if you hear the Song.

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