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    wraith core rulebook says "they were born by the violence of the sundering"
    problem is that while other books(and even that book) imply that they are unspeakably ancient... the sundering happened (according to this book at least) after the time of gilgamesh... which by wod standards is not THAT old..

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    Well, Wr20 is not yet out, so we can flag this as a thing to note and possibly request a change on when the preview pdf hits.

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      The question you have to ask is, how would the Wraiths of the time known if they were born then or just awakened for the first time then?


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        ok,i thought about a bit more and i believe that the best way is tret this issue is to interpret the wraith historian's words allegorically. for instance aeneas can't be older than the shroud... given that he almost certainly lived after charon's death. it's just that the non existence of a shroud gave rise to these events and the neverborn were not "manifested" until then>??

        that's what came to my mind anyway.

        so perhaps (from a metagame perspective)

        the neverborn come into being or their roles at the dawn of the second age, they get broken at the beginning of the third age and manifest in the underworld at the fourth age. which coincided with the strengthening of the shroud and the beginning of modern history

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          Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post
          Well, Wr20 is not yet out, so we can flag this as a thing to note and possibly request a change on when the preview pdf hits.
          This actually brings up a question I was pondering. I was going to purchase the 2nd Edition from DTG, but should I wait fro Wr20?

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            Originally posted by EldritchMinister View Post

            This actually brings up a question I was pondering. I was going to purchase the 2nd Edition from DTG, but should I wait fro Wr20?
            Well, it's a lot closer now than when the KS was still fresh. It's listed as being in editing, so if you can wait two months or so, just wait.

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              Originally posted by mark View Post
              ok,i thought about a bit more and i believe that the best way is tret this issue is to interpret the wraith historian's words allegorically. for instance aeneas can't be older than the shroud... given that he almost certainly lived after charon's death. it's just that the non existence of a shroud gave rise to these events and the neverborn were not "manifested" until then>??

              that's what came to my mind anyway.

              so perhaps (from a metagame perspective)

              the neverborn come into being or their roles at the dawn of the second age, they get broken at the beginning of the third age and manifest in the underworld at the fourth age. which coincided with the strengthening of the shroud and the beginning of modern history
              Aeneas didn't live after Charon's death. They are both of the Mycenaen era. In fact, Aeneas is pretty much de facto terminal Late Mycenaean. Considering who "Charon" very likely was when he was still alive, they are, in fact contemporaries. Doing very much the same thing (wandering about trying to find a/get back home) at the same time in roughly the same place (e.g. the Mediterranean) In fact, they have very similar epics.....

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