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  • wander
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    Originally posted by Lin Liren View Post
    (Warning: Disturbing Topic)

    5) Garou who get TOO furious in their Rage fall into "The Thrall of the Wyrm", wherein the unholy-anger in the darkness of their Homid, Metis or Lupus natures compels them to Cannibalize, Violate or Desecrate their fallen enemies.
    In the Dark Umbra, a Wraith or Specter is as tangible as Flesh to a Garou who has stepped into that world, so it would be safe to assume that a Garou in the Thrall of The Wyrm would attempt to Eat, Rape or Dismember a fallen-Wraith too, yes?
    I'd rule that as a 'Yeah, they would' if this happened, though as mentioned above, Garou entering the Dark Umbra is a bit of a rarity.

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  • Prince of the Night
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    Originally posted by Nazfool View Post
    Disclaimer: My WtA knowledge is a bit limited.

    To my understanding, only the Silent Striders have much to do (if anything) with the Dark Umbra. When they do, it’s under special circumstances that [I think] involve one Garou. I think a werewolf getting into the Shadowlands is nowhere near as easy as stepping sideways into the Prenumbra. I don’t see this scenario happening with any regularity in WtA RAW.

    It does, however, sound like a neat idea for a small group [camp?] of werewolves that make it their business to help like this. Off the top of my head, something like the Acolytes of Anubis, an ancient sect of Silent Striders that does [stuff you talked you about].

    Again, my WtA experience isn’t extensive, so I’m not sure how far in the ballpark I’m in.

    Nazfool how do I get the wraith badge on my user avatar?

    And same reason that Changelings or the Romani or Mages dont hire Garou mercenarys, those likely willing to work for money are likely going to be moonlighting, doing it for thrills or "Doing somethiong new"

    or because they NEED the money for a practical purpose.

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  • Lin Liren
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    (Warning: Disturbing Topic)

    5) Garou who get TOO furious in their Rage fall into "The Thrall of the Wyrm", wherein the unholy-anger in the darkness of their Homid, Metis or Lupus natures compels them to Cannibalize, Violate or Desecrate their fallen enemies.
    In the Dark Umbra, a Wraith or Specter is as tangible as Flesh to a Garou who has stepped into that world, so it would be safe to assume that a Garou in the Thrall of The Wyrm would attempt to Eat, Rape or Dismember a fallen-Wraith too, yes?

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  • nothing
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    All right, the counterpoints:
    Originally posted by Lin Liren View Post
    I wonder why Wraiths don't do this more often.

    1A) The Average-Wraith is an Average-Joe, and The Average Garou is trained, hardened-experienced Werewolf-Warrior who can tear DOZENS of enemies, physical or spiritual, into confetti in a heartbeat.
    1B) AND you never just meet ONE average Garou, Werewolves travel in PACKS as a rule.
    1C) This would be an un-life saving Godsend in Tempests and Maelstroms where *dozens* of Specters are pounding on your door.
    #notallGarou, but that's neither here nor there; Spectres travel in packs as well, and a cohort of Shades lead by an effective and competent Nephwrack is easily on par with an Garou pack. In fact, I would put money on a pack of Striplings over a werewolf pack, thanks to the Hive-Mind; in Maelstroms, it's more like hundreds, if not thousands of Spectres. Maelstroms are literally described as waves of Spectres, and not piddly little ones - tsunami-sized.
    2) Being able to travel between the worlds of The Living AND the Dead, the Garou can act as liasons and ambassadors for Wraiths who need business done on the other side of the shroud.
    The Silent Striders already do this to an extent, as do Sluagh Changelings, but they're scattered and few in number. They are also not usually the ...most combat-oriented... of the Tribes.
    3) How would a Wraith go about actually hiring Garou if this option is considered? How would Wraiths pay for this service?
    Like they do with everything: Pathos and favors. Using Usury, Wraiths can pour Pathos into Garou and Caerns, though it's tainted with Underworld "flavor."
    4) It would be safe to assume that Specters would also hire the services of Black Spiral Dancers too, yes? Those psychos and sociopaths are practically Specters with flesh bodies, after all.
    All bad guys work together, until they don't.

    Cheers!

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  • Nazfool
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    Disclaimer: My WtA knowledge is a bit limited.

    To my understanding, only the Silent Striders have much to do (if anything) with the Dark Umbra. When they do, it’s under special circumstances that [I think] involve one Garou. I think a werewolf getting into the Shadowlands is nowhere near as easy as stepping sideways into the Prenumbra. I don’t see this scenario happening with any regularity in WtA RAW.

    It does, however, sound like a neat idea for a small group [camp?] of werewolves that make it their business to help like this. Off the top of my head, something like the Acolytes of Anubis, an ancient sect of Silent Striders that does [stuff you talked you about].

    Again, my WtA experience isn’t extensive, so I’m not sure how far in the ballpark I’m in.

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  • Aya Tari
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    Most Garou are incapable and/or unwilling to go to the Dark Umbra.

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