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  • Enderdragon1201
    started a topic Do supernatural beings have ghosts?

    Do supernatural beings have ghosts?

    Hello. I was wondering, do any supernatural beings aside from mages have ghosts?

  • Second Chances
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    Vampires also have the Ash That Devours, a not-quite ghost of a powerful blood sorcerer that can attempt to reconsititute its physical undead form.

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  • Tessie
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    Originally posted by malonkey1 View Post
    I'm having a thought. Changelings get bits of their souls torn up when they escape the Hedge (and stiching themselves back together with Faerie stuff arguable makes them Changelings). Mages can make ghosts from Soul Stones, which are bits of a person's soul. Do you suppose that what a Changeling leaves behind could become a Hedge Ghost?

    (It's possible somebody has already said something official about it, in which case I need to pay more attention.)
    Originally posted by Rose Bailey View Post
    Not all Hedge ghosts, however, are former changelings or humans. Emotions shape the Hedge: strong impressions of fear and pain, joy and rapture, feelings that can grow so overwhelming that they awaken as their own entities. Travelers passing through the Hedge also leave pieces of themselves behind, bits of their souls that snag on the Thorns. A potent enough Icon may detach itself and continue wandering, or be gathered up by a hobgoblin seamstress and sewn into something new, made entirely out of other scraps of souls.
    Characters.

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  • malonkey1
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    I'm having a thought. Changelings get bits of their souls torn up when they escape the Hedge (and stiching themselves back together with Faerie stuff arguable makes them Changelings). Mages can make ghosts from Soul Stones, which are bits of a person's soul. Do you suppose that what a Changeling leaves behind could become a Hedge Ghost?

    (It's possible somebody has already said something official about it, in which case I need to pay more attention.)
    Last edited by malonkey1; 05-06-2017, 10:31 AM.

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  • Teatime
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    Originally posted by Tessie View Post
    Except a deathmask is the direct continuation of a geist's remains while ghosts are generated separate from the original.
    So that would make Deathmasks... corpses of Ghosts?

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  • Tessie
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    Originally posted by milo v3 View Post
    In 2e, Sin-Eaters are their ghosts.
    I don't think it was explicitly confirmed. Just hinted to as a possibility. But I might remember wrong.

    An explanation: Since the soul leaves the body immediately after death it's unable to negotiate with the geist. (There's nothing that supports that souls even hav a consciousness.) It was suggested that it could be the ghost of the recently deceased who bargains with the geist, meaning a Bound would be two ghosts bound together with a body who originally didn't house either (since ghosts are not direct continuations of people).
    Last edited by Tessie; 05-06-2017, 10:18 AM.

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  • milo v3
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    Originally posted by malonkey1 View Post
    Every Sin-Eater has a ghost. It's just not their ghost. Usually.
    In 2e, Sin-Eaters are their ghosts.

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  • Urbenmyth
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    At least in 1st ed, it specifies that diablerised vampires never leave behind ghosts, which at least implies that others vampires leave them behind normally. Although that was early first ed so it may well have been retconned.

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  • Charlaquin
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    Originally posted by LostLight View Post
    I think there is one in Wicked Dead, but I'm not sure. Will have to check.
    "tend to" being the operative phrase. It wouldn't be CofD if there wasn't an exception to every general tendency.

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  • Tessie
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    Except a deathmask is the direct continuation of a geist's remains while ghosts are generated separate from the original.

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  • Teatime
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    Originally posted by malonkey1 View Post
    Ghosts of ghosts?
    Like Geist Death-Masks?

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  • malonkey1
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    Originally posted by nofather View Post
    She's in Immortal Sinners.

    But, basically, nothing seems to explicitly forbid ghosts of supernatural things, and since there's ghosts of towns and animals and humans and mages it seems like they would exist.
    Ghosts of ghosts?

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  • nofather
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    She's in Immortal Sinners.

    But, basically, nothing seems to explicitly forbid ghosts of supernatural things, and since there's ghosts of towns and animals and humans and mages it seems like they would exist.
    Last edited by nofather; 05-05-2017, 04:01 PM.

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  • LostLight
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    Originally posted by Charlaquin View Post
    Hollow Mekhet have Ghost-like dopplegangers. Otherwise, vampires don't tend to leave ghosts as far as I know.
    I think there is one in Wicked Dead, but I'm not sure. Will have to check.

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  • malonkey1
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    Every Sin-Eater has a ghost. It's just not their ghost. Usually.

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