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  • wyrdhamster
    started a topic [Contagion] CoD Splats - Sworn or False?

    [Contagion] CoD Splats - Sworn or False?

    Part forum game, part advise topic - Write splat ( Clan, Covenant, Auspice, Tribe, Path, Order, etc. ) and we will advise Sworn of False faction. Most are logical, but some cases can be truly hard to decide.

    Like here is mine - Silver Ladder. Logically most members should be in Cryptocracy - however, this Sworn is shown more as Guardians of Veil-like group, that is more like 'shadow government', not 'wise politicians'. Silver Ladder is also big about a change in it's parts, better future - so they could work better in Ship of Theseus? What do you think about SL here?
    Last edited by wyrdhamster; 03-27-2019, 10:42 AM.

  • Neos01
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    I would say plumbeum or copper

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  • wyrdhamster
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    Thinking about idea for medieval Promethean - called 'Pilgrim' - like names points to, he would travel around the world to go to sacred places, to prey for the sick on Contagions. Probably he would be Christian. Surely, he would be in Jeremiad Sworn. However - what Refinement would work with this idea?

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  • ArcaneArts
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    Originally posted by wyrdhamster View Post
    Topic revive, as I prepare some NPCs. I will give you REAL problem - What Sworn should be Promethean Refinements? Because beside simple 'Centimani = Naglafar's Army' - I'm blank here. Created fixating on becoming human makes it difficult to judge Sworn faction, as they are all focused on beating the Contagion.

    I suppose Ferrum would be Zero Hour, but even here I have some problems with that idea - Ferrum is about perfecting physical theyself, Zero Hour are just about military fight with Contagion...
    Centimani can work well in the Crucible Initiative, Machiavelli Gambit, Naglfar's Army, the Jeremiad, Zero Hour, the Ship of Theseus, and the Rosetta Society if they are Centimani of a particularly philosophical bent.

    Ferrum works well with The Ship of Theseus, Zero Hour, the Jeremiad, and the Machiavelli Gambit.

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  • Leliel
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    Originally posted by wyrdhamster View Post
    Topic revive, as I prepare some NPCs. I will give you REAL problem - What Sworn should be Promethean Refinements? Because beside simple 'Centimani = Naglafar's Army' - I'm blank here. Created fixating on becoming human makes it difficult to judge Sworn faction, as they are all focused on beating the Contagion.

    I suppose Ferrum would be Zero Hour, but even here I have some problems with that idea - Ferrum is about perfecting physical theyself, Zero Hour are just about military fight with Contagion...

    First of all: the first mention of Centimani is actually the Crucible Initiative. Just getting that out of the way; one can embrace monstrosity and still think of themselves saving the world so they can live in it.

    I'd say the Cryptocracy opens its meetings for Aurum. The Mimics are already spies upon humanity after all, so they can learn it from an insider's perspective. Not hard, to simply ask for a secondary objective of improving human society; they might learn something in the process.

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  • wyrdhamster
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    Topic revive, as I prepare some NPCs. I will give you REAL problem - What Sworn should be Promethean Refinements? Because beside simple 'Centimani = Naglafar's Army' - I'm blank here. Created fixating on becoming human makes it difficult to judge Sworn faction, as they are all focused on beating the Contagion.

    I suppose Ferrum would be Zero Hour, but even here I have some problems with that idea - Ferrum is about perfecting physical theyself, Zero Hour are just about military fight with Contagion...
    Last edited by wyrdhamster; 11-08-2019, 03:53 AM.

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  • Primordial newcomer
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    Originally posted by Live Bait View Post
    True but there is much less silver in the world than sunlight, I see it as definitely trading up even if it’s not the end point they are looking for especially if they can now operate 24/7.
    once again, the dragons dont believe in trading a weakness for another. it's much easier just to make a coil for Banes in general than deal with the contagion (which will do far more than just twist one aspect of your nature anyway)

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  • Live Bait
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    True but there is much less silver in the world than sunlight, I see it as definitely trading up even if it’s not the end point they are looking for especially if they can now operate 24/7.

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  • Primordial newcomer
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    Originally posted by Live Bait View Post

    But think of the new Coils they could make. Immunity from silver should be doable right?
    Dragons would not want to make new coils for weaknesses they didnt have before. the contagion just twists their natures and such (besides, why make a coil for silver when you can make a coil for Banes in general)

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  • ArcaneArts
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    Originally posted by Live Bait View Post

    But think of the new Coils they could make. Immunity from silver should be doable right?
    I mean, vampires are inherently susceptible to silver anyways, and thus it only comes up if it develops as a personal bane?

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  • Live Bait
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    Originally posted by Primordial newcomer View Post

    agreed. besides, the contagion does not really allow it transcendence. being rid of the sunlight allergy to get a moonlight or silver allergy is exactly the sorta thing dragons dont want, a tradeoff
    But think of the new Coils they could make. Immunity from silver should be doable right?

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  • SdeSpencer
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    Originally posted by LostLight View Post
    Kinda feel like the Rosetta IMO, but could also be Zero Hour, reincarnating endlessly in their fight against the Contagion. In case of being False, the Army could be a good fit for the same reason.
    Hm. Interesting. Personally I felt they feel more Theseans. While many Reborn seem interested in histories, particularly their own, most of the time that's not their focus, and more a potential time waster, and Zero Hour is a good idea, but i'd say it's more a logical decision to be a foot soldier as opposed to a reason they'd pick them ideologically. In contrast, the type of immortality that is being Reborn is ABOUT change, with constantly becoming a new person with a new life every time you die and come back, living through a new perspective each time, which feels highly connected to the ideals of the Theseans.

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  • Primordial newcomer
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    Originally posted by ArcaneArts View Post
    I mean, their MO is spelled out pretty directly within the Ship of Theseus. Rosetta Society has some appealing things for them as well, and the Jeremiad's not above making a god out of the self.

    In the mean time, the False have...what? The end of the world, plague? Not really in the Ordo's MO. The Machiavelli Gambit are compelling, since the Ordo do love their opportunities. But is that really anymore compelling than anything the Sworn offer? To individuals, maybe, but as a collective? Nah. The Sworn are more likely to make something out of things.
    agreed. besides, the contagion does not really allow it transcendence. being rid of the sunlight allergy to get a moonlight or silver allergy is exactly the sorta thing dragons dont want, a tradeoff

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  • ArcaneArts
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    Originally posted by Sith_Happens View Post
    Can’t decide if the Ordo Dracul all jump onto the False train or band together to destroy it for daring to one-up them so badly.
    I mean, their MO is spelled out pretty directly within the Ship of Theseus. Rosetta Society has some appealing things for them as well, and the Jeremiad's not above making a god out of the self.

    In the mean time, the False have...what? The end of the world, plague? Not really in the Ordo's MO. The Machiavelli Gambit are compelling, since the Ordo do love their opportunities. But is that really anymore compelling than anything the Sworn offer? To individuals, maybe, but as a collective? Nah. The Sworn are more likely to make something out of things.

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  • LostLight
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    Originally posted by SdeSpencer View Post
    You know i might as well semi-revive this and be self indulgent while I'm at it: Reborn from Immortals.
    Kinda feel like the Rosetta IMO, but could also be Zero Hour, reincarnating endlessly in their fight against the Contagion. In case of being False, the Army could be a good fit for the same reason.

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