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  • Originally posted by hellovg View Post
    Have you thought about a system wherein a demigod may take the partial power of enemies vanquished?

    Legend is rife with demigod heroes taking pieces of their defeated foes and using their powers (like Perseus using Medusa's head). Have you thought about something similar? Like Demigods being able to turn enemy parts into useful weapons?
    Seconded, this sounds like a cool idea. :3


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    • Originally posted by SaulottheGentle View Post

      Seconded, this sounds like a cool idea. :3
      I agree, thank you for the suggestion hellovg . I've no idea how to handle it though.


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      • Originally posted by ajf115 View Post

        I agree, thank you for the suggestion hellovg . I've no idea how to handle it though.

        You could probably make it a crafting such items a unique skill set, like token making from changeling or other some such object from mage, and using the item in question could work similar to a miracle...

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        • I've just been watching Lucifer, and the way that the artefacts of the Divine inspire obsession in mortals is a great deal like the effects of Halysis, and Detective Malcolm is an excellent example of a mortal at the fourth or fifth Threshold of Halysis. The way that he kills the Satanists who he sees as 'frauds' is an excellent example of the way that an enthralled mortal can do horrible things in the name of something which they adore and worship.


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          • Furthermore, here's something I wrote a little while ago, some inter-chapter fiction. I know it's not the best, and it's cliche beyond reason, but some thoughts on it would be delightful.


            Max stood, unarmed, with his back to the dead end of an alleyway with a pair of burly guys wearing balaclavas advancing on him and tried desperately not to laugh.
            If he had been in this situation only a week ago, he would have been terrified, begging them to take his stuff and to leave him alone. He would have been pissing himself with fear. Now he could hardly hold in the laughter at the thought that these two pigs thought they could hurt him.
            It was the other part of him that thought it was so funny, he knew, the part that had accepted Julian’s worship without a second thought and had loved it, the part that made him want to pull out the thunder and lightning and go full Old Testament-style on these fuckos’ asses.
            But that wasn’t all of him, so he spoke to them first.
            “So you’re the guys who’ve been fucking stuff up in this neighbourhood are you?”
            The guy on the right puffed up a little, like he was happy to be recognised.
            “Yeah, so wha’? You gonna go all caped crusader on us and drag us to the cops?”
            “Oh no,” Max replied, “I couldn’t care less about what you’re doing, if only you’d do it somewhere else.”
            “Oh yeah? You wan’ us to leave you alone?” said the guy on the left, “Well too bad, give us your wallet and we’ll go. Don’t and we might have a problem.”
            Max finally gave in to the laughter that bubbled up out of his throat, booming like thunder in miniature.
            “Where’d you get that little spiel? A crime drama?”
            Max reached inside, to where the light was, the light that had burned through him and remade him into a god.
            “Whatever,” he said, his voice becoming the rumble of thunder as his body turned to lightning “This is my turf, my holy ground and I won’t let filth like you pollute it”.
            When the police arrived later to investigate reports of a deafening bang that had shattered windows in a number of buildings near the alleyway, all they found was a pair of human-shaped outlines seared onto the dirty floor.




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            • Originally posted by ajf115 View Post
              Furthermore, here's something I wrote a little while ago, some inter-chapter fiction. I know it's not the best, and it's cliche beyond reason, but some thoughts on it would be delightful.


              Max stood, unarmed, with his back to the dead end of an alleyway with a pair of burly guys wearing balaclavas advancing on him and tried desperately not to laugh.
              If he had been in this situation only a week ago, he would have been terrified, begging them to take his stuff and to leave him alone. He would have been pissing himself with fear. Now he could hardly hold in the laughter at the thought that these two pigs thought they could hurt him.
              It was the other part of him that thought it was so funny, he knew, the part that had accepted Julian’s worship without a second thought and had loved it, the part that made him want to pull out the thunder and lightning and go full Old Testament-style on these fuckos’ asses.
              But that wasn’t all of him, so he spoke to them first.
              “So you’re the guys who’ve been fucking stuff up in this neighbourhood are you?”
              The guy on the right puffed up a little, like he was happy to be recognised.
              “Yeah, so wha’? You gonna go all caped crusader on us and drag us to the cops?”
              “Oh no,” Max replied, “I couldn’t care less about what you’re doing, if only you’d do it somewhere else.”
              “Oh yeah? You wan’ us to leave you alone?” said the guy on the left, “Well too bad, give us your wallet and we’ll go. Don’t and we might have a problem.”
              Max finally gave in to the laughter that bubbled up out of his throat, booming like thunder in miniature.
              “Where’d you get that little spiel? A crime drama?”
              Max reached inside, to where the light was, the light that had burned through him and remade him into a god.
              “Whatever,” he said, his voice becoming the rumble of thunder as his body turned to lightning “This is my turf, my holy ground and I won’t let filth like you pollute it”.
              When the police arrived later to investigate reports of a deafening bang that had shattered windows in a number of buildings near the alleyway, all they found was a pair of human-shaped outlines seared onto the dirty floor.



              This is utterly beautiful.


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              • Originally posted by SaulottheGentle View Post


                This is utterly beautiful.
                Thank you. I'm touched.


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                • I'm coming back to this after quite a while away, because I had an idea for it. Specifically, the Aspects as they are now seem altogether too on-the-nose to me. Perhaps they could be re-skinned, at least in name and in a few particulars? A way I thought of for doing that follows, and yes, it was inspired by the manga Campione! Note that although the 'aspects' are described with physical domains, their purviews are much more conceptual. Steel and Stone are 'crafted' things, and that's what their gods represent.
                  • Gods of Fire and Sky Gods of Fire and Sky are creatures of resplendence and rebellion. They are Prometheus, who stole fire from the gods and gave it to man, and they are Lucifer, who fell and in falling burned Hell as a scar into the earth. At the same time, though, they are also Zeus, who was stolen from, and YHWH, who cast down the Morningstar. Gods of Fire and Sky are the stars towards which civilisation strives, and they are the fires that cast it down. Demigods of Fire and Sky are most often masters of forces and the elements, and can sometimes seem more force than person, like a storm constrained in skin.
                  • Gods of Steel and Stone The gods of Steel and Stone are tutelary deities and holy warriors. They are Verethragna, the divine warlord, and they are the Yellow Emperor, who taught language to the early tribe sin the area that is now China. The demigods gods of Steel and Stone are perhaps the most human of their kind, and they are the patrons of human things: architecture, war, writing, smith-work and a hundred other disciplines.
                  • Gods of Earth and Water Gods of Earth and Water are old gods, primitive gods and primordial gods. They are earth-mothers and sea-father and, quite often, are dragons and serpents as well. They are the gods that are least like people, Gaia who was the Earth and Tiamat who was the salt waters. The Serpents are the gods that live in life and parenthood and sex and blood. they are visceral and their worship is unconstrained. Dionysus was a god of the bounty of the Earth and of the madness it can bring.
                  • Gods of Night and Death Always, in every pantheon, there is a god whose domain is the dark, whether of the night or of the vast abyss that lies beyond death. These are the gods of Night and Death, and they are other. They are the gods-beyond-the-veil, Ereshkigal who rules the Underworld and the Morrigan, bearer of fate and doom.


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                  • Originally posted by ajf115 View Post
                    I'm coming back to this after quite a while away, because I had an idea for it. Specifically, the Aspects as they are now seem altogether too on-the-nose to me. Perhaps they could be re-skinned, at least in name and in a few particulars? A way I thought of for doing that follows, and yes, it was inspired by the manga Campione! Note that although the 'aspects' are described with physical domains, their purviews are much more conceptual. Steel and Stone are 'crafted' things, and that's what their gods represent.
                    I don't know. I kind of like the Aspects as they are, and feel that they cover more than enough ground for different kinds of godhood. They give the possibillity of playing as a god who affects the physical world as much as a god who "works in mysterious ways" or the like.

                    Not to mention as how they've been renamed, it feels a tiny bit like they'd be easily mispercepted as being only able to affect the purviews they're listed for in their titles and a part of me feels that the new ideas could be written into the current Aspects.

                    But on the other hand, it feels like what I said could go the same way for the new aspects. That the new Aspects could still cover more than enough ground for different kinds of godhood and that the parts of the old ideas could remain in the new aspects.

                    In my personal opinion, I prefer the old Aspects if only because they feel more "Sandboxy" in a way. But that's just my opinion and this is your gameline, feel free to disregard it if you wish. :3


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                    • Originally posted by SaulottheGentle View Post

                      I don't know. I kind of like the Aspects as they are, and feel that they cover more than enough ground for different kinds of godhood. They give the possibillity of playing as a god who affects the physical world as much as a god who "works in mysterious ways" or the like.

                      Not to mention as how they've been renamed, it feels a tiny bit like they'd be easily mispercepted as being only able to affect the purviews they're listed for in their titles and a part of me feels that the new ideas could be written into the current Aspects.

                      But on the other hand, it feels like what I said could go the same way for the new aspects. That the new Aspects could still cover more than enough ground for different kinds of godhood and that the parts of the old ideas could remain in the new aspects.

                      In my personal opinion, I prefer the old Aspects if only because they feel more "Sandboxy" in a way. But that's just my opinion and this is your gameline, feel free to disregard it if you wish. :3
                      Hmm. Well, I probably won't be doing all that much with the thing right now - I have altogether too much on my plate - but it was a thought I had that I didn't want to just be forgotten. I thought I might as well put it up here for other people to have a look at.


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                      • So, I haven't looked at this very often since I came up with the Following Of Banners. How much progress has been made? How invested are you all into this project, if at all?
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                        • Originally posted by GibberingEloquence View Post
                          So, I haven't looked at this very often since I came up with the Following Of Banners. How much progress has been made? How invested are you all into this project, if at all?
                          Recently? Really not that much. I had a bit of a break due to circumstances, then came back and realized that the demigods were far too Sueish for the setting. Quite apart from anything else, I got really engrossed in writing other stuff. I may come back to this at some point but I make no guarantees.

                          EDIT: Although now that I've gone back and taken a look at it, I'll probably keep working on it at a low level. Although, if you're interested in helping I'd be very grateful if you could do something with the Following of Sparks.

                          Following of Sparks
                          This following believes that there is only one thing which is truly divine, faith itself. Demigods are the result when humans have a great concentration of Faith.
                          Members of this following tend to collect faith from members of all religions equally, seeing each as a similar means for faith to express itself in the world. They seldom belong to an organized mortal religion themselves, but some may believe that the worldwide sea of Faith is itself conscious and thus be able to reconcile it with some form of monotheism or pantheism (there are virtually no polytheists among them - the Sparks believe that polytheistic religions originally followed Demigods who have long since Ascended for the second time and thus no longer have individual consciousness). The Following of Sparks is itself more like a religion than most of the other Followings: unlike the following of Reincarnates, they believe in a higher power which should be served, and unlike the Following of Vassals, they have reached an agreement on roughly what this power is and what it wants. Simply put, it wants more of itself to be spread throughout the world. Sparks accomplish this mission by spreading new Cults and founding new Temples, which tends to make them popular with other followings even if their reasons for doing so do not, for they create far more of these resources than they use themselves and are often willing to share.
                          Sparks believe that Second Ascension is the process of becoming one with Faith again, and they see it not only the pinnacle and goal of their own existence, but of everyone else's as well.
                          The numinous forms in this following tend to be fiery or to radiate some other form of energy, reflecting the belief among followers that they are filled with the energy of faith.


                          Here's the template:

                          Introduction
                          (A basic summary of the following)

                          Philosophy
                          (A few core ideas to the Following)

                          Organisation
                          (How the Following is organised)

                          Factions
                          (Factions within the Following)

                          Emblems
                          (A conceptual type of miracle that the Following is best at, and one which it's worse at)

                          Numinous Forms
                          (A description of the numinous forms of the following)

                          Stereotypes
                          (As usual)
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                          • I attempted to write up the Following of the Nine Circles and the Following of Embodiments a while ago, but got stuck with the former almost done and the latter just started. Rather than letting them continue to molder in my laptop, here's what has been written for the Nine Circles at least:
                            The Following of the Nine Circles
                            The Branded
                            The Liberated
                            Introduction
                            The Following of the Nine Circles believes that demigods are demons who have left Hell, at the cost of their memories.
                            Whether this was an escape or some greater authority released them is up for debate, as is the exact nature of Hell itself, but all agree that the change was one for the better. On Earth, the freed demons were able to take on the lives of mortals, yet retained much of their own powers, and members of this Following believe in exploiting both advantages.

                            Philosophy
                            The central concepts of the Following of the Nine Circles are:
                            • This world is meant to be enjoyed. Most Demigods would agree that both the mundane world and the Drasil are far from perfect, but to members of the Following of the Nine Circles, each is a paradise compared to what they have left behind. To spend a single hour of their time on something tedious rather than savouring the numerous pleasures available to them seems to most Demigods of this following to be an unforgivable waste. This isn't to say that the Branded are incapable of pursuing long-term goals: many find the process of obtaining something they covet a pleasure in itself.
                            • Ambition is a trap. It's said by many of the Liberated that Hell is a state of striving for something which can never be obtained. To them, those who do the same on Earth have created a Hell for themselves. Where goals are neccessary, they should be finite and concrete. Nebulous desires for power and prestige can never really be satisfied, and pursuing them leads simply to responsibilities that take time away from one's own goals. Many of the Liberated do have Cults for the practical benefits, but working to expand a Cult just for the sake of doing so is seen as a waste of energy. A few of the Branded reject Cults altogether, deliberately trying to maintain a low Luminance to avoid collecting mortal followers,
                            • The vice of mortals is the prey of Hell. Most of the Branded believe that they were not born into the mundane lives they remember, but were able to take possession of mortals who had committed some crime in their past. After they have established themselves in their new home, Demigods of this Following are encouraged to continue collecting the
                            • The Second Ascension is a fall back into captivity. This Following teaches that Demigods have escaped from one long and terrible punishment, and many of the Branded carry the fear of again being called to account. With no memories of their previous state, the crimes which resulted in their imprisonment, or whether they even had permission to leave, members of this Following have no way of knowing when they might verge on being sent back.
                              Organisation
                              The Following of the Nine Circles is both hierarchal and liberal. Each follower of the Nine Circles has their own underseer, who is responsible for ensuring they do nothing which threatens the group or Demigods in general. Otherwise members are allowed to pursue their own agendas. The deeper ranks of this organization are kept secret. Most followers of the Nine Circles believe that the descending levels of authority culminate in a council of Demigods nine steps beneath the rank and file members, who make important decisions for the group Others insist that there are no lower levels, and that underseers are assigned to others of the same rank in a semi-random fashion. A few Demigods (usually not members of the following themselves) allege that the most powerful members still reside in Hell itself, though whether they are part of its official power structure or rebels varies from teller to teller.

                              The ideology of the following is such that authority is seen more as a burden than a privilege, hence the reason the group is ranked downward. The highest Status Demigods in the group may not even have the rank of underseer, which often nets more resentment than respect.

                              Factions
                              There are three major factions among the Followers of the Nine Circles:
                            • The Hedonists This faction seeks simply to enjoy the fruits of life in the mortal world. They are the most common.
                            • Collectors of the Unholy Tribute This faction treats their time in the mortal world as a working vacation of limited extent. They seek to keep themselves out of Hell by sending others in their place, and it is to this end they lead their cults and other followers. Their sense of exactly what Hell is and what sins are necessary to arrive there vary - some claim that Heaven is really no better than Hell, and they are at least encouraging mortals to make the most of life.
                            • Parole Board This faction hopes to release others from Hell. The methods used vary, and typically end up summoning beings from the Inferno or the Abyss rather than new Nine Circles Demigods. This is the faction that runs afoul of the Underseers most frequently, with some of the Branded arguing it should be banned completely. If the Parole Board was ever truly successful, the fears are, it would only result in drawing the attention of Hell’s jailers.
                              Emblems
                              The defining Miracles of the Following of the Nine Circles are those which release. Whether by unleashing natural forces or the inner nature of other sentient beings, the nature of these Demigods seems to strive against constraints. They are accordingly not very skilled at rebinding whatever forces they set free.

                              Myself am Hell Although, the Liberated are no longer imprisoned within their native soil, its taint remains with them. An area within Luminance x feet of the Demigod has a hazardous environmental tilt of the Demigod’s choice. By default this is a resonance with some negative emotion, but it can be changed with a Willpower point at any time. The Branded are not necessarily immune to the negative effects of any such tilt, in fact they may be more vulnerable, being at the epicenter of the effect.

                              Numinous Forms
                              The numinous forms of the followers of the Nine Circles are grotesque. They often have features which seem stretched or distorted, such as cruel smiles which extend past the limits of a normal face. Their more inhuman attributes are rarely reminiscent of any particular animal, but combine the nature’s arsenal of horns, fangs, and spines with a distinctly unnatural aesthetic. Many also are marked as if by past punishments, bearing brands and scars.

                              Stereotypes
                              The Morningstar They would drag us into a war lost centuries ago. Why risk losing all that we’ve managed to get back?
                              Vassals They turn this life into servitude nearly as bad as what we escaped. As long as they don’t try to make us do the same, they’re welcome to it.
                              Ascendents What more are they striving for? This state has everything we need.


                            Hopefully, this will be an inducement to resume working on the other Following.

                            Please share your suggestions on what should be done to modify the Nine Circles write-up above (of course, ajf115 has the final say).

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                            • Originally posted by Alastor View Post
                              I attempted to write up the Following of the Nine Circles and the Following of Embodiments a while ago, but got stuck with the former almost done and the latter just started. Rather than letting them continue to molder in my laptop, here's what has been written for the Nine Circles at least:
                              The Following of the Nine Circles
                              The Branded
                              The Liberated
                              Introduction
                              The Following of the Nine Circles believes that demigods are demons who have left Hell, at the cost of their memories.
                              Whether this was an escape or some greater authority released them is up for debate, as is the exact nature of Hell itself, but all agree that the change was one for the better. On Earth, the freed demons were able to take on the lives of mortals, yet retained much of their own powers, and members of this Following believe in exploiting both advantages.

                              Philosophy
                              The central concepts of the Following of the Nine Circles are:
                              • This world is meant to be enjoyed. Most Demigods would agree that both the mundane world and the Drasil are far from perfect, but to members of the Following of the Nine Circles, each is a paradise compared to what they have left behind. To spend a single hour of their time on something tedious rather than savouring the numerous pleasures available to them seems to most Demigods of this following to be an unforgivable waste. This isn't to say that the Branded are incapable of pursuing long-term goals: many find the process of obtaining something they covet a pleasure in itself.
                              • Ambition is a trap. It's said by many of the Liberated that Hell is a state of striving for something which can never be obtained. To them, those who do the same on Earth have created a Hell for themselves. Where goals are neccessary, they should be finite and concrete. Nebulous desires for power and prestige can never really be satisfied, and pursuing them leads simply to responsibilities that take time away from one's own goals. Many of the Liberated do have Cults for the practical benefits, but working to expand a Cult just for the sake of doing so is seen as a waste of energy. A few of the Branded reject Cults altogether, deliberately trying to maintain a low Luminance to avoid collecting mortal followers,
                              • The vice of mortals is the prey of Hell. Most of the Branded believe that they were not born into the mundane lives they remember, but were able to take possession of mortals who had committed some crime in their past. After they have established themselves in their new home, Demigods of this Following are encouraged to continue collecting the
                              • The Second Ascension is a fall back into captivity. This Following teaches that Demigods have escaped from one long and terrible punishment, and many of the Branded carry the fear of again being called to account. With no memories of their previous state, the crimes which resulted in their imprisonment, or whether they even had permission to leave, members of this Following have no way of knowing when they might verge on being sent back.
                                Organisation
                                The Following of the Nine Circles is both hierarchal and liberal. Each follower of the Nine Circles has their own underseer, who is responsible for ensuring they do nothing which threatens the group or Demigods in general. Otherwise members are allowed to pursue their own agendas. The deeper ranks of this organization are kept secret. Most followers of the Nine Circles believe that the descending levels of authority culminate in a council of Demigods nine steps beneath the rank and file members, who make important decisions for the group Others insist that there are no lower levels, and that underseers are assigned to others of the same rank in a semi-random fashion. A few Demigods (usually not members of the following themselves) allege that the most powerful members still reside in Hell itself, though whether they are part of its official power structure or rebels varies from teller to teller.

                                The ideology of the following is such that authority is seen more as a burden than a privilege, hence the reason the group is ranked downward. The highest Status Demigods in the group may not even have the rank of underseer, which often nets more resentment than respect.

                                Factions
                                There are three major factions among the Followers of the Nine Circles:
                              • The Hedonists This faction seeks simply to enjoy the fruits of life in the mortal world. They are the most common.
                              • Collectors of the Unholy Tribute This faction treats their time in the mortal world as a working vacation of limited extent. They seek to keep themselves out of Hell by sending others in their place, and it is to this end they lead their cults and other followers. Their sense of exactly what Hell is and what sins are necessary to arrive there vary - some claim that Heaven is really no better than Hell, and they are at least encouraging mortals to make the most of life.
                              • Parole Board This faction hopes to release others from Hell. The methods used vary, and typically end up summoning beings from the Inferno or the Abyss rather than new Nine Circles Demigods. This is the faction that runs afoul of the Underseers most frequently, with some of the Branded arguing it should be banned completely. If the Parole Board was ever truly successful, the fears are, it would only result in drawing the attention of Hell’s jailers.
                                Emblems
                                The defining Miracles of the Following of the Nine Circles are those which release. Whether by unleashing natural forces or the inner nature of other sentient beings, the nature of these Demigods seems to strive against constraints. They are accordingly not very skilled at rebinding whatever forces they set free.

                                Myself am Hell Although, the Liberated are no longer imprisoned within their native soil, its taint remains with them. An area within Luminance x feet of the Demigod has a hazardous environmental tilt of the Demigod’s choice. By default this is a resonance with some negative emotion, but it can be changed with a Willpower point at any time. The Branded are not necessarily immune to the negative effects of any such tilt, in fact they may be more vulnerable, being at the epicenter of the effect.

                                Numinous Forms
                                The numinous forms of the followers of the Nine Circles are grotesque. They often have features which seem stretched or distorted, such as cruel smiles which extend past the limits of a normal face. Their more inhuman attributes are rarely reminiscent of any particular animal, but combine the nature’s arsenal of horns, fangs, and spines with a distinctly unnatural aesthetic. Many also are marked as if by past punishments, bearing brands and scars.

                                Stereotypes
                                The Morningstar They would drag us into a war lost centuries ago. Why risk losing all that we’ve managed to get back?
                                Vassals They turn this life into servitude nearly as bad as what we escaped. As long as they don’t try to make us do the same, they’re welcome to it.
                                Ascendents What more are they striving for? This state has everything we need.


                              Hopefully, this will be an inducement to resume working on the other Following.

                              Please share your suggestions on what should be done to modify the Nine Circles write-up above (of course, ajf115 has the final say).
                              Thanks for the write-up. I'm very grateful that people are still interested in this. I haven't had time to read it over properly, but I'll do so as soon as I can.

                              As a bit of a warning, though, I'm intending to go over what's been done for Demigod so far and re-assess many parts, particularly the mechanics for Miracles, the whole deal with the Drasil, Titans, Teras and similar. I want to try and remodel the whole to be more closely connected to the human world, to make demigods' power more fragile and reliant on power bases (e.g. cults, arcane geometries of ley lines, churches, places of power etc) to wield anything beyond their basic powers. I like the idea of demigods being like the guys you traditionally try to foil the plans of in urban fantasy RPGs, the ones who pull strings and organise things oh-so-carefully to gain grater power. And yes, the parallels to the God-Machine's Infrastructure are entirely deliberate.


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                              • Can I suggest a antagonist idea?

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