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  • How would beasts react to meeting a group geniuses from genius the transgression

    One of the reasons i ask is because I've thought that the idea of beasts fighting mad scientists in one the insane bardos would be just truly all kinds of epic

  • Primordial newcomer
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    No problem, I wish for it to be, but I understand that it would be impractical

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  • ArcaneArts
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    Originally posted by Primordial newcomer View Post
    Oh, I just thought you simply did not like it. Pretty good breakdown by the way, from the charm of being made by fans for fans, and for regarding a not very well done execution of presenting the theme, world building, etc.
    I may or may not have put some thought into it.
    Dear lord have I put way too much thought into it.

    Anyways, while it admittedly does make my eye twitch when people talk about it being canon worthy, I do want to make it clear that I don't want to detract from people who enjoy it.

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  • Primordial newcomer
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    Oh, I just thought you simply did not like it. Pretty good breakdown by the way, from the charm of being made by fans for fans, and for regarding a not very well done execution of presenting the theme, world building, etc.

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  • ArcaneArts
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    Originally posted by Primordial newcomer View Post
    So Arcanearts is just not a fan
    On a positive spin of it, I am actually pretty interested in what Malonkey and folks are doing with Second Edition Genius and would hate to see that usurped by an "official" take.Also part of what makes Genius....not great, but of some import is it such a prominent piece as a fan piece, a game by fans for fans, and that sort of ground-up charm would be lost in an official take.

    But. Uh. Yeah. I am very definitely not a fan of Genius First Edition. I found the theme and mood lacking representation, relevance, and weight, the world-building nonsensical and contradictory, the characterization of the archetype obnoxious and lackluster, and some of the subtext disturbingly toxic....from just the intro and the first half of Chapter 1. I did read up to the end of Chapter 2 and even liked that chapter and Catalysts, but I just got really burned out on the majority of Chapter 1.

    But hey, power to you if you enjoy it.

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  • Primordial newcomer
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    So Arcanearts is just not a fan

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  • Vent0
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    Originally posted by Primordial newcomer View Post
    Are the rules not so great? I just like the lore
    Some people may have formed opinions based on unfavorable readings and prior negative reactions with the gameline's fans (namely, some of them could be referred to as jerks or asshats with some justification).

    For point of contrast, I am a fan of the line, even if I acknowledge it has some issues than could (and are) being ironed out.

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  • Primordial newcomer
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    Are the rules not so great? I just like the lore

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  • ArcaneArts
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    Originally posted by Primordial newcomer View Post
    And now I want genius be an official gameline with the official devs hired too lol


    Let's...no. Let's say no.

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  • Primordial newcomer
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    And now I want genius be an official gameline with the official devs hired too lol

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  • Dusksage
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    Allow me to clarify: The Begotten community at large would probably recognize two distinct supernatural societies who are both very similar in terms of their levels of power and their insatiable appetite for knowledge and discovery. Overall they would be probably be held in similar regard by the Hive communities at large, and only individual Children and Broods who form kinship with one or the other would better comprehend the greater nuances between both kinds of supernatural beings.

    My point being that by making the general concensus more ambiguous about Genii and Mages then it allows for genuine discovery to occur then the players encounter one or the other and potentially form kinship with them. Having both sides distinctly known may allow for a more direct approach but it loses that general sense of discovery and wonder. (In other words, keep it vague as hell so the players can have that "There's Wizards and Mad Scientists!?!" moment.)
    Last edited by Dusksage; 10-04-2017, 02:50 PM. Reason: Polish

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  • The Kings Raven
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    I'd suggest giving Begotten a bit more insight. I mean, it's just more interesting to have two different groups for Beast PCs to explore interacting with than two of the same groups. Here's how I'd describe the Mage/Genius division:

    Mages are academia. They get respect, appear on the news to talk about the issues of the day, and are united in lofty causes like the pursuit of knowledge and the betterment of mankind. But look beyond the surface and it's a hot mess of factionalism and petty politics and much of what they create is restricted to expensive academic journals.

    Geniuses are tech-startup culture. Society thinks they're weird. Newspapers talk about scary big brother algorithms and job stealing robots. Everyone's shamelessly trying to get rich and competing for the approval of venture capitalists who're suit wearing normals. But under the surface people mostly get on with their nominal rivals, and much of what they create is free and open source on github.

    Obviously some exaggeration is going on here. But I think even outsiders like the Children could see the difference and a Storyteller could use that distinction to double the potential stories to be told.

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  • Dusksage
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    Honestly the Begotten probably wouldn't see that big of a difference between Genii and Mages. Both would be the cousins who go off to college and both try to fit everything into their own well educated but limited world view.

    Just one builds robots in their garage and the other builds ritual circles in their backyard, and as anyone who's seen rival college students go at it heaven forbid if you guess incorrectly which one is which. (Trick question though, both could fit into either gameline. That's kinda the point I'm trying to make when it comes to the Children's perspective.)
    Last edited by Dusksage; 10-04-2017, 02:24 PM. Reason: Polish

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  • The Kings Raven
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    Originally posted by Mangaholic13 View Post
    So, I'm gonna ask, is there a way Beasts could act as a socializing influence on Geniuses? I admit I don't know that much about Genius, so I could be asking a really dump question, but since Beasts can more easily socialize than a Genius, couldn't they potentially act as a go between?
    With Genius and socalisation it's a bit more complex. Because Genisues are actually very social. They just kinda suck at it. Put it this way: They built their own pusdo internet in the 18th century so they could communicate better, then they promptly filled it with a nightmarish mess of flamewars, ranting, and petty feuds.

    My suggestion for how a Beast would fit with Geniuses: Penny from the Big Bang Theory. The guys were social and did plenty of stuff as a group, but Penny quickly found a role helping them avoid social blunders when interacting with regular people and whacking them with a clue bat every time their internal dynamics got too over the top.

    Originally posted by Mangaholic13 View Post
    Also, how would Beasts feel about Bardos? Can Beasts form Kinship with living disproven theories?
    Sure, why not?

    There's quite a lot of Manes who're thematically supposed to be regular guys. Paper Goblins, or any humans living on Space Station Colossus. So that theme puts them in an edge case, but even they have the supernatural ability to feed on people's brains which strikes me as a good reason for them to be Kin. Something like a Radiance DX-48, definately Kin.

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  • Mangaholic13
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    Okay, looks like the last few posts on this thread went a little off topic, going from Beast/Genius relations to Genius/Princess relations.

    So, I'm gonna ask, is there a way Beasts could act as a socializing influence on Geniuses? I admit I don't know that much about Genius, so I could be asking a really dump question, but since Beasts can more easily socialize than a Genius, couldn't they potentially act as a go between?

    Also, how would Beasts feel about Bardos? Can Beasts form Kinship with living disproven theories?

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