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  • How beasts learn atavisms?

    I will be a storyteller in a prologue adventure, so I need to know how beats learn atavisms?
    Other beats teach it? The horror teach it? They just know?

    Also, I would like to read a prologue adventure suggestion... I can't find any in the book. TY

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    Per the book, Beasts develop Atavisms when their Horrors change in some way, most commonly through sharing a Lair with other Beasts; similar rationales for picking up new forms of legendary might could include sustained and/or plentiful Kinship with a particular type of monster, a suitable addition to the feeding practices your Legend associates you with, or just finding weird shit in other dimensions and bringing some of it back to your Lair.


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    • #3
      You could also go with the Horror maturing as an excuse.It's not a common one, but there are stories that include a monster gaining new powers or becoming in some way more dangerous as it gets older as just a part of maturation.

      Like Koshack the station cat who hovers about 6 feet off the ground in the men's bathroom at the Nightvale Community Radio Station. His kittens started out with alien allure and probably siren's treacherous song. Of course Cecil has had to remind people for a reason that proper care of growing kittens requires heavy gloves lest you get a heavy dose of venom. (Basilisk's venom atavism.) Though I'm not sure which atavism one would use to replicate when they get their tendril hubs.

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      • #4
        Ok, but the first atavism and nightmare, how the beast get it?
        Let's say, we have a fresh new beast, how it get it's powers? Since beasts don't really have a society.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by draxdeveloper View Post
          Ok, but the first atavism and nightmare, how the beast get it?
          Let's say, we have a fresh new beast, how it get it's powers? Since beasts don't really have a society.
          A Beast's starting Atavisms can be assumed to be part of the Horror's initial makeup.

          Beginning Nightmares, meanwhile, could have their secrets gleaned in the Devouring that revealed the Beast's true soul in the depths of the Dream that warped a normal Chamber into the Heart of a Lair. (Or, less dramatically, they could simply be learned through early attempts at exploring the Primordial Dream.)


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          • #6
            Originally posted by draxdeveloper View Post
            Ok, but the first atavism and nightmare, how the beast get it?
            Let's say, we have a fresh new beast, how it get it's powers? Since beasts don't really have a society.
            "Atavisms are intrinsic. They are the Giant’s strength or the Raptor’s talons. Using them is as natural as breathing." They "get" their first atavisms from that simply being how their horror's body is.

            Nightmares on the other hand, "must be learned, whether at the knee of some other monster or by ferreting them out from the deep places of the Primordial Dream". So pick depending on whether or not you know other supernaturals.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by draxdeveloper View Post
              Ok, but the first atavism and nightmare, how the beast get it?
              Let's say, we have a fresh new beast, how it get it's powers? Since beasts don't really have a society.
              How do you Learn how to Breathe? Walk? Open your Eyes?

              Same thing with the Atavisms.They just know. They are part of them, that's why they aren't "Taught" they are Learned.
              You find out something "New" about your Body... or you Change. (Don't ask how. Dreams are Weird)


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              • #8
                Originally posted by RickmanUK View Post

                How do you Learn how to Breathe? Walk? Open your Eyes?

                Same thing with the Atavisms.They just know. They are part of them, that's why they aren't "Taught" they are Learned.
                You find out something "New" about your Body... or you Change. (Don't ask how. Dreams are Weird)

                Basically this - I'd argue though if it's a fresh Beast campaign; they don't instinctively understand their atavisms - so discovering ones intrinsic abilities would be cool .

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                • #9
                  Also, you could additionally go with something like 'big changes to the Beast can lead to new Atavisms' - maybe she nearly died to bleeding out last time --> Relentless Hunter is the Horror's 'immune system' response to that threat.
                  Change in Lair? The Lair is part of your 'soul' (Don't forget, the Character is a trifecta composite of the physical body, the Horror and Lair), so getting Burning as a Lair trait might come along with the Dragonbreath Atavism.
                  Otherwise, RickmanUK already pointed out the main thing.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Volke View Post


                    Basically this - I'd argue though if it's a fresh Beast campaign; they don't instinctively understand their atavisms - so discovering ones intrinsic abilities would be cool .
                    True if you've just "Became" this new Entity... you won't know how to use them straight away... But you will learn relatively quickly. Your learning how to walk Breathe, Move See for the first time. You Learn, or you don't... If you don't you probably won't survive. The First ones, you will learn really Quickly they are you.. you might not understand how you are doing things, but your'll figure it out. (If your Playing though the Becoming And you have a Anakim with Say Cyclopean Strength.... They might not know just how strong they are at first. They will figure it out pretty damn quickly.


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RickmanUK View Post

                      True if you've just "Became" this new Entity... you won't know how to use them straight away... But you will learn relatively quickly. Your learning how to walk Breathe, Move See for the first time. You Learn, or you don't... If you don't you probably won't survive. The First ones, you will learn really Quickly they are you.. you might not understand how you are doing things, but your'll figure it out. (If your Playing though the Becoming And you have a Anakim with Say Cyclopean Strength.... They might not know just how strong they are at first. They will figure it out pretty damn quickly.
                      Well in that case I suppose - but whatabout things like Unbreakable? You wouldn't really know until you were..well...hit xD. In one on my campaigns, part of the first session was one of the Beast PCs discovering what they can do - in terms of Atavisms & Nightmares. So it makes for good storytelling if done right . Just because its innate - I think it's a little more complicated than breathing or thinking. Dreaming is natural but unless you know how to do it, you can't really do it unless you meet certain circumstances (asleep and feeling creative? )

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                      • #12
                        Also, things like interaction with your brood play a role: your Giant shares a Lair with a sea serpent? Well looky here, his brother's 'taught' him how to breath underwater on their Trips through the shared lair- and your Horror Passes that right on to you!

                        You trained hard, got stronger, and now, your body is a vessel capable of Handling your Gryphon's Cyclopean Strength!

                        You adopted a life style emulating your horror, lurking and hiding... now you better understand how it feels, and that Insight allows you To Draw On Its instincts: You Have Gained From the Shadows!
                        Last edited by Wormwood; 03-16-2017, 02:25 PM. Reason: autocorrect

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