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  • blodmåne
    started a topic Explain Beast to me as if I was five

    Explain Beast to me as if I was five

    This is the splat that most instigates me and I'm on the brink of buying the books, but I love my money and would like to know a bit more before going after it.

    What the Beasts are, exactly, is one of the most crucial information that I couldn't gather from researching this forum and the interwebs. Whether the "Horror" is a true manifestation or similar to the Kindred's Beast is another. At first, I thought Beast was a game that allowed you to be Jason, Krueger and M. Myers or something like that, but I've seen stats for Dragons, Worms and similar... well, beasts.

    What about the Lairs? I read somewhere that they have mystical (or something) pathways, but another thread talked about someone invading your Lair. Can a normal human use this strange pathways? Are they physical places or mere reflections of real places, while being located in the Shadow (or another realm whatsoever)?

    How does one BECOME a Beast? Is it natural (Wolfy) or imposed (Kindred)?

    And finally, I'm very interested in using them as antagonists in my table; are they strong for combat situations? What about as masters of a city? Do they share their Lairs with other Beasts? Are they socially oriented?


    Do not curb your potential answer by the scope of my questions, anything you can add is appreciated!

  • ArcaneArts
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    Originally posted by blodmåne View Post
    As always, you people are efficient and kind.
    Thank you again!
    Give us time.

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  • blodmåne
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    As always, you people are efficient and kind.
    Thank you again!

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  • ajf115
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    Originally posted by Primordial newcomer View Post
    dragonfire warps the body? I thought you would just see someone breathing a torrent of fire, not a distended jaw doing so
    Well yeah - you see the flames; you don't just see a guy breathing on something, and then it behaving like it's burning with no flames.

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  • ArcaneArts
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    Originally posted by Primordial newcomer View Post
    dragonfire warps the body? I thought you would just see someone breathing a torrent of fire, not a distended jaw doing so
    It does not, but it's on the list of Atavisms where it's important to note that the effect is visible rather than invisible and I grouped it into the explanation to keep it simple but also grasp the whole picture.

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  • Primordial newcomer
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    dragonfire warps the body? I thought you would just see someone breathing a torrent of fire, not a distended jaw doing so

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  • ArcaneArts
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    Originally posted by blodmåne View Post
    But... one question remains: the form. Literally the form.
    Are you in human form when you use Atavisms and in low Satiety levels? One idea I had is for a small and old fisherman from the Giant family (Anakin?), but I'm a bit fuzzy on how it would look like when he decides to rip a plate of metal with his bare hands.
    Lastly... do they age normally or should my Giant Beast be Devoured later in life to reflect his appearance?
    Outside of the Lair?

    It looks like an old fisherman ripped off a plate of metal with his bare hands. He both looks too frail to ever do that and feels like that sort of thing was child's play. The dissonance between the visuals and the atmosphere is a big part of the horror aesthetic of Beast-mortals can't see the Horror without the Lair, but they can feel it.

    Exceptions include the various Atavisms where it becomes too much for the flesh to contain, such as Dragonfire, Infestation, Skin Deep and Ravenous Maw, and supernatural entities can more strongly sense the Horror(read: like, in a visual medium, most supes can see the Horror superimposed over the Beast), but for the most part-if something where reality couldn't hope for such an image but a nightmare would happily fill it in, reality looks like reality but feels like a nightmare.

    Beasts don't slow in age until past Lair 5, at which point it's about 50 years on top of the lifespan per dot of Lair and aging slowing to match. Some of the Inheritances fudge the math, but that's largely Storytelling fiat and never goes a whole lot farther than the standard(so far).

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  • Primordial newcomer
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    atavisms are scary in that nothing physically changes. if a beast were to scratch of your face with his hands, he would not grow claws, he would have regular hands that are somehow ripping your face off. if someone were to have mage sight or something similar, they would see the horror itself acting as the extension of the beast.

    beast age depending on how big their lairs are, 5he more dots in lair, the longer they live and less they age

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  • blodmåne
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    So, I'm back. Bought the main book, not the Player's Guide yet (RPG books are too expensive in my country).

    I read the book en passant while I was traveling and let me say this: the bits of story flavor around the book are just marvelous. Sometimes I was the only one awaken in the whole plane, that unnatural feeling of being around a hundred people and still alone, and I got those goosebumps from reading - most likely, if an Horror was around, it could be feeding from it. Honestly, one of the best I read in my whole life regarding role-playing games.
    Unfortunately, I didn't read too much of the rules, but I loved the Atavisms; Beast feels like it can be the better version of other major splats, with the correct choices - what you can do, I can do better.

    But... one question remains: the form. Literally the form.
    Are you in human form when you use Atavisms and in low Satiety levels? One idea I had is for a small and old fisherman from the Giant family (Anakin?), but I'm a bit fuzzy on how it would look like when he decides to rip a plate of metal with his bare hands.
    Lastly... do they age normally or should my Giant Beast be Devoured later in life to reflect his appearance?

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  • ArcaneArts
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    Yep. Secrets and Transgressions are the ones that come from the Player's Guide.

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  • blodmåne
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    Just to be sure, 5 from basic and 2 extra from Player's Book?

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  • Nyrufa
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    Originally posted by blodmåne View Post
    You guys should get a percentage of what Onyx will get from the book I'm buying, because this is pretty much made my mind:

    Ah, yeah, the Hungers.

    In addition to the 5 (or 7) families your Beast can derive from, there are also 5 (or 7) Hungers which serve as their primary means of harvesting terror from their victims.


    Power - You inspire fear through dominance, making those around you feel inferior. A nickname for you is Tyrant.


    Hoard - You inspire fear by stealing material possessions which hold personal value to the victim. A nickname for you is Collector.


    Ruin - You inspire fear by shattering the victim's sense of security. A nickname for you is Ravager.


    Prey - You inspire fear by knocking people down a few notches on the food chain. A nickname for you is Predator.


    Punishment - You inspire fear by punishing others for their wrong doings. A nickname for you is Nemesis.


    Secrets - You inspire fear by acquiring information that your victim wishes to keep hidden from others. A nickname for you is Whisper.


    Transgression - You inspire fear by convincing others to violate laws, taboos and boundaries of their own free will. Usually with a high risk of being caught afterward. A nickname for you is Enabler.
    Last edited by Nyrufa; 01-08-2019, 10:31 PM.

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  • blodmåne
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    You guys should get a percentage of what Onyx will get from the book I'm buying, because this is pretty much made my mind:

    The added Inguma Family are experts at infiltration and hiding within other groups. The Whispers Hunger is good for the spider in a web of information. The Enablers Hunger is great for someone that holds sway over lots of people by having offered them transgressions and kept blackmail material on it.

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  • Nyrufa
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    Originally posted by vernuf View Post
    Regarding their combat potential, with the right Atavisms and some Nightmares, they can (appropriately enough) be terrifying in combat.

    Especially since anybody who isn't supernaturally perceptive often don't have the ability to see the monstrous side of their powers. When a Beast uses their claws against an ordinary human, it looks like they tore them apart with their bare fingers.

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  • vernuf
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    Regarding their combat potential, with the right Atavisms and some Nightmares, they can (appropriately enough) be terrifying in combat.

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