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    *deep breath*

    Okay Konradleijon , I get the feeling you haven't picked up on the etiquette of the forums here, which can be reasonably understood, since it's not like the terms of use around here, and for the most part it isn't writtenup-so I'm gonna try and fix that here and give the quick guideline on Thread Necromancy Etiquette for you so we can...stop doing this.

    The General Rule-Do Not Revive Old Threads

    There are plenty of Thread Types that are exempt from the above rule, but it's important to start on the basics, and that basic is "If the thread has not been posted in for over a month, it is conventionally considered dead, and should not be revived."

    The simple way of dealing with this is to go to the last post in the thread before responding to ANYTHING ELSE IN IT, and looking at the upper left corner of the post for that time date. For example, if you look at Heavy Arms' post, you can see that that post was put up on May 28th of this year-at least three months ago. So as a general rule, you would not then revive a thread doing that. By contrast, if the last post were from September 15th of this year, then while it's definitely been a while since people talked about it, they may still be interested in that conversation and thus it's okay to revive it.

    So, That's the General Rule-but let's say you have something you want to say on the subject anyways? Well, the first criteria is a self-check.

    Keeping the Spark Going-Worthwhile Posts and the Situations That Make Them Such

    I want to start this section off by saying that, while this is a significant part of the Thread Necromancy problem, it's also part of a larger issue with your posting habits, and I want to just kind of clarify and give you some direction to not keep that up as a problem.

    Now, the primary rule of contributing to a thread that is cooling or dead is "I should only contribute a post if I have something meaningful to contribute to the conversation of the thread." A post like this can be a question that you really need clarification on, a major clarification on the topic that hasn't been added in yet, a meaningful "third option" that has come up yet, or a good critical analysis or personal anecdote to really bring that helps support a topic in there. The Big Thing that you're looking for here is "If I post this, is the conversation in the thread likely to pick up, or is it going to just be me posting here?" If it's the former, then congratulations, you have a piece to go onto our next phase of etiquette. If it's the latter, you should not post it.

    Now in much more recently active threads, particularly currently active threads, there's not as much pressure to contribute meaningfully to a conversation or to ask deep questions. A current-ish thread has room for light questions, funny quips and diatribes, and generally mild and loosely related posts. However, it does still pay to understand that certain kinds of posts carry different weights to them, and that certain kinds of those posts can be an unwelcome distraction to the conversation occuring.

    As a general rule, large statement posts (like essays or related stories) and questions inherently are more important to people's priorities than simple statements, jokes, and image-only responses. Because people on the forums treat questions and large statement posts as more seriously, it is very inconvenient when it turns out those questions are not serious or unrelated to the conversation at hand, and the same is true of large statement posts. The question you want to ask yourself is "Would I feel like someone wasted my time if I dealt with this only to find out it wasn't all that important for them to begin with?"

    While important for current conversations, it is far more important for cooling or dead threads that your posts be meaningful contributions. So if you have such a post, great! Now what?

    Go To Current Threads or Make a New Thread-Do Not Revive Old Threads

    So if you have a post that meaningfully contributes to the conversation, one that you think is likely to start up conversation again, then the best thing to do from there is to look around the threads and see if there is a more recent thread going on that covers that same topic. If you find such a thread, you then get to add your own comments to it and keep it going, and also bring in the benefit of the original thread you wanted to comment on as context should you link to it in your post.

    If there are no threads currently going on that relate to the comment you want to make, it's still considered rude to revive an old thread-so what you should do instead is start a new thread on the topic. You can, in your original post for that thread, insert a link back to the original thread so people may have it as context on the new thread, but whether you do that or not, it is better to turn a continuation of a dead thread into a new thread all of it's own. You can use this as another way of thinking about the previous step-"Is what I have to say so important that I could warrant making a new thread on it?"

    By doing this, rather than coming off as rude from bringing up a conversation people might well be done with and never want to see again, you can bring in activity to a forum. It's usually greatly appreciated, and is far more likely to get results than simply reviving an old thread.

    Now, between those three points, you should be set, but we have one more big bit to cover, and it's a tricky one-

    The Exceptions to the Rules-Some Threads are Meant to Go On Forever

    While the above guidelines are to be considered in almost all cases, there are some threads that are intended to stay around-and going beyond that, there are certain areas in the forums where long-running threads are more of a thing, and therefore have more leeway on reviving old threads.

    Namely, the Off-Topic part of the forums is loaded to the brim with threads that are intended to be long running and continuous. The main good guideline is if it's centered on a clear subject that isn't tied to a momentary occurence, it's safe to respond to. These threads tend to be quite large already, and some even have a iteration number attached to them. Some example for Off Topic threads that are safe to revive include

    -What Is On Your Mind(currently named "Does this forum make my butt look big?")
    -Movie
    -The LBGT Thread
    -The D&D Thread
    -You Know What I Hate Mk 4
    -You Know What I Love
    -The Drunk Thread
    -Let's Talk Comics

    and more asides.

    In Game Focused portions of the forums, the rules can be a lot more island-esque. Exalted, for instance, has a pretty different culture compared to Chronicles. Nevertheless, there are some thread types that persist amongst all of them, including Simple Question threads, Art and Music threads, Homebrew Project Threads (including original fangame threads), Inspiration/Character Idea/Story Seed threads, and some more asides.

    Some threads are acceptable to revive even if they aren't intended to be around as permanently as possible, and those namely tend to be threads on Products that have been announced and not-yet released, though once a product is out and the thread has exhausted itself, it becomes rude to revive those arbitrarily. Most of the time, those threads will maintain activity anyways, but if the product isn't out yet but the thread is having a lull, it is appropriate to post in there.

    Some examples from Chronicles include

    -Sample Mysteries
    -Doing First Tongue Translations(Which, in fact, is stickied)
    -Ask a simple question, get a simple answer(Demon the Descent)
    -Deviant Kickstarter
    -Changeling Resources
    -Demon Translation Guide: Inferno

    and more asides.

    It's not always clear what is and isn't acceptable to revive as a thread, so check on times, and if you really feel like it should be okay to revive even if that last post was from a month ago, the main thing to ask is if the thread is intended to cover a concern that can be visited and revisited with frequency, or if it's a conversation what to be had and then let go of.

    Even more simply and beneficially than that, if you aren't sure if it's okay to revive a thread or not, then it's safe to assume you shouldn't revive it and should go seek a newer, relevant thread, or making your own.

    Finally, why is this a thing?

    Simply Put, It's Rude-Do Not Revive Old Threads

    A lot of the time, we don't want to have to bother with a thread if we absolutely have to read through posts, if not pages, to get what a new contribution to it is about. Often, the resulting contributed point ends up non-sequitor-ish anyways, and makes it feel like our time is being wasted. In the case of some threads, it brings back a lot of exhaustion and maybe negative feelings that we would rather not want to experience. A thread that has gone through it's paces is also a poor means of creating interest and conversation because it inherently feels tread out, where as a new one inspires the need to answer, comment, or rebut, which creates activity.

    Any way you slice it, it is usually better to create new threads, or to contribute to current ones.

    Thank you for your time, and remember

    Do Not Revive Old Threads.
    Last edited by ArcaneArts; 10-15-2019, 06:41 PM.


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