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  • Originally posted by Konradleijon View Post
    Woohoo what type of beast would Rick of Rick and morty be?
    He wouldn't be. He constantly mercs beasts, and uses pieces of them to build things, so he's probably a mix of alchemist and hero.

    @ArcaneArts... Did you just drop a dad joke?

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    • How does a Beast go to their Lair? Do they need to access it via Chambers or Burrows or can they just go whenever they want? And what about dragging others there?

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      • Originally posted by Sinister Spider View Post
        How does a Beast go to their Lair? Do they need to access it via Chambers or Burrows or can they just go whenever they want? And what about dragging others there?
        Opening a path is the most common method. Get a trait of yours you can rig to an area, then entice the individual into the area, call down, then scare them out of there, through a burrow, and into the lair proper.

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        • Originally posted by Sinister Spider View Post
          Do they need to access it via Chambers or Burrows or can they just go whenever they want?
          You need the physical basis for one of your Chambers or a reasonable facsimile thereof, the latter of which will be substantially harder to use unless you've hunted in the place and/or have a Lair Trait present to daisy-chain your other Traits onto to ease the passage.


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          • Originally posted by ArchonAres View Post

            Opening a path is the most common method. Get a trait of yours you can rig to an area, then entice the individual into the area, call down, then scare them out of there, through a burrow, and into the lair proper.
            Originally posted by Satchel View Post
            You need the physical basis for one of your Chambers or a reasonable facsimile thereof, the latter of which will be substantially harder to use unless you've hunted in the place and/or have a Lair Trait present to daisy-chain your other Traits onto to ease the passage.
            Thank you. The reason I asked this is because of the passage on page 97 a player brought up:

            "An empty Lair is just a stage devoid of action, with the Beast’s Horror wandering from Chamber to Chamber. The Horror is capable of acting independently, but Beasts can see through the Horror’s eyes and direct its actions at any time, or choose to vanish from the physical world entirely and fully inhabit their Primordial self."

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            • Originally posted by ArchonAres View Post
              @ArcaneArts... Did you just drop a dad joke?
              I dropped an honest answer that also happened to be sardonic.

              If you wanted dad jokes, you should have been in the car today.


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              • Originally posted by Konradleijon View Post
                Woohoo what type of beast would Rick of Rick and morty be?
                I think an Anakim, because his knowledge of impossible sciences makes him powerful beyond the dreams of most, and because his power has made him a wandering, mad god that arrives, twists things up and leaves without a thought to the effects of his rampages. His 'infinite realities' schtick could make him Makara as well, from a certain point of view.


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                • Originally posted by ArchonAres View Post

                  The problem comes in that your total satiety potential must exceed your current satiety. So you'd only be able to feed like this at allt satiety 1-2.

                  So to get any feeding potential of note... *Looks at other modifiers* it isn't exactly pleasant. Also, a sex cult would be less of what I think the op was intending, and definitely far darker.
                  One of us has this wrong, I understand it as when your potential is lower than your Satiety, they you don't roll, and don't wait for the scene to end. (Because the Horror isn't overeager) So you get satiety without chances involved when eating small, and your Horror starts messing up if it can have a relatively big feast.

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                  • Originally posted by Sinister Spider View Post



                    Thank you. The reason I asked this is because of the passage on page 97 a player brought up:

                    "An empty Lair is just a stage devoid of action, with the Beast’s Horror wandering from Chamber to Chamber. The Horror is capable of acting independently, but Beasts can see through the Horror’s eyes and direct its actions at any time, or choose to vanish from the physical world entirely and fully inhabit their Primordial self."
                    In this case the Beast doesn't enter the Lair, the Horror is in there (almost always) and the Beast can sort of remote-control it.

                    IIRC it takes one instant action from you to make the Horror do something, and you don't have your senses while you are using those of the Horror's. (but correct me here, read it quite a while ago)

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                    • Originally posted by IceBen View Post

                      One of us has this wrong, I understand it as when your potential is lower than your Satiety, they you don't roll, and don't wait for the scene to end. (Because the Horror isn't overeager) So you get satiety without chances involved when eating small, and your Horror starts messing up if it can have a relatively big feast.
                      …No? That defeats the entire point of high Satiety being "your Horror is picky because it's nearly fully and if you force it to overeat then it might lapse into a food coma."


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                      • Your horror being picky is mechanically represented with one whole die. It modifies what counts as feeding, not how fulfilling it will be when you actually feed. Also, if you don't get the dice by default when it is lower than your sat, then hitting slumbering becomes so much less risky. (And unnecessarily hard)

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                        • Originally posted by IceBen View Post
                          Your horror being picky is mechanically represented with one whole die.
                          No, that is the more specific tilt your character's Horror puts on the wider umbrella of their Hunger.

                          It modifies what counts as feeding, not how fulfilling it will be when you actually feed.
                          These are not separate qualities in a regular feeding roll. Why do you imagine that the categories of base Satiety potential for a meal are framed as restrictions?

                          Also, if you don't get the dice by default when it is lower than your sat, then hitting slumbering becomes so much less risky.
                          I literally cannot parse how you think the mechanic is supposed to work. You don't get to roll if the potential is below your current Satiety. That doesn't turn small meals into Family Dinners.

                          (And unnecessarily hard)
                          That is the point. A character is not likely to hit Slumbering unless they are aiming for it or very unlucky.


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                          • Gotta side with Satchel here, IceBen.
                            If your Horror is hungry, it's easy to find meals, because even spur-of-the-moment (low base potential) stuff allows you to feed easily.
                            Once you're Sated or Gorged, you have to do very different things to feed: harder to pull off, extremer results due to e.g. multiple instances or murder etc.
                            This restriction does not modify how satisfying feeding will be, it modifies whether something can be considered a meal at all. You can still have little meals here and there, but you'll be much more involved and how you go about them, and contrary to your statement, they carry a far higher risk of falling Slumbering.
                            (If I want to feed at Satiety 7, then the roll will HAVE to have 7 or more dice, thus carrying a much higher risk of getting 3+ successes and the Horror falling asleep.)

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                            • Regardless of themes and such, the objective truth is that there is no rule that grants automatic Satiety if you don't get to roll for Satiety gain.


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                              • Originally posted by Tessie View Post
                                Regardless of themes and such, the objective truth is that there is no rule that grants automatic Satiety if you don't get to roll for Satiety gain.
                                You immediately gain 1 Satiety, possibly 2 from Family Dinner.

                                Is there a hard and fast rule for how long it takes to traverse the dream-space of Chambers? What's stopping a ST from just rolling through your burrows immediately after one another?

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