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  • Changelings with "no Fae Mein"

    Is it possible for a Changeling to have "no Fae Mein" or rather their "Fae Mein" is exactly the same as they were when they were mortal? That means no tail, horns, elf ears, wings, etc but just their normal human appearance as they were before they entered Arcadia? Or basically Seamingless/Kithless Changelings? but the only 'change' they have is the Wyrd and wield contracts and such.
    Last edited by Veindark; 12-02-2016, 05:36 PM.

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    that, my friend, is a fae-touched. The changes a Changeling experienced reflect not only what happened to them, but how they decided to escape. If someone in a social hell finally snapped and broke the script by tearing out the FaeEO's trachea with their teeth and running off into the Hedge covered in blood, the Hedge will warp their body to represent that with aspects of a vicious and predatory animal or a brute with a maw of fangs and an oversized jaw. To escape with no Kith or Seeming means at the very least that they escaped not through any agency of their own, but were rescued by another person.

    That is not to say that a mien has to look majorly inhuman. I've seen character's who just have strangely colored hair, or strange clothes, or only look "subtly off", perhaps too pale to be real or always wearing a crown of poison ivy.


    A god is just a monster you kneel to. - ArcaneArts, Quoting "Fall of Gods"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Master Aquatosic View Post
      or strange clothes, or only look "subtly off", perhaps too pale to be real or always wearing a crown of poison ivy.
      About the strange clothes and poision ivy crown are they removable or is it part of their Fae Mein? It means they have to mutilate themselves to remove them (or is it possible for Changelings to self mutilate their own Fae miens like cutting off their tales, sawing their horns off, etc) till the point it get's to splatterpunk territory?
      Last edited by Veindark; 12-02-2016, 06:31 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Veindark View Post

        About the strange clothes and poision ivy crown are they removable or is it part of their Fae Mein? It means they have to mutilate themselves to remove them (or is it possible for Changelings to self mutilate their own Fae miens like cutting off their tales, sawing their horns off, etc) till the point it get's to splatterpunk territory?
        It doesn't matter how much they try to remove it, what's part of a Changeling's Fae Mien is part of their body. They can no more stop a crown of poison ivy growing in their hair than they can stop growing hair. They are fae down to their very soul, and nothing barring forcing that change off onto their Fetch (in itself a very prolonged event) can change them back. Yes, a Changeling can change themselves such as getting horns cut off or scales recolored, but in the end that's more surgery than anything else, and it's likely that various things like Goblin fruit or healing contracts could outright regrow those removed bits.

        Not to say that Changelings are immune to mutilating themselves, but it won't make them not have a Fae Mien again. The best they can go for are contracts that can change their Mien or Kith so it's less obvious.

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        • #5
          I've had questions about the clothing part of Fae Miens myself. The irremovable crown and other small accessories make sense, but some of the Seeming descriptions for some Kiths seem to describe whole outfits. Does that mean that no matter what they wear, those who see the Mien will only see the outfit defined by their fae nature?


          A god is just a monster you kneel to. - ArcaneArts, Quoting "Fall of Gods"

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          • #6
            Bear in mind, those are examples, and could denote Hedgepsun clothing they prefer to wear. Another idea is that perhaps their Mien crosses over their clothing in a way, adding accents, colors or traits to it. Kind of like an aura version of the shape of someone's body showing under their clothing.

            Really, these kinds of things are things that a player and their GM should work out together, so as to better shape the character. It's not a broad set of traits, more a case by case basis, as even in Arcadia Changelings can vary wildly, much less when they're from an innumerable number of Gentry.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Taidragon View Post
              Bear in mind, those are examples, and could denote Hedgepsun clothing they prefer to wear. Another idea is that perhaps their Mien crosses over their clothing in a way, adding accents, colors or traits to it. Kind of like an aura version of the shape of someone's body showing under their clothing.

              Really, these kinds of things are things that a player and their GM should work out together, so as to better shape the character. It's not a broad set of traits, more a case by case basis, as even in Arcadia Changelings can vary wildly, much less when they're from an innumerable number of Gentry.
              Then again, I'm not sure if you're making yourself clear that the clothes are removable allowing the character to be nude or changing clothes.

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              • #8
                I intend to be pretty flexible on appearance and Mask/Mein, according to player desires. Baseline rules I have in mind: The Mask needs to be fairly mundane human, with possible hints of the Mien leaking through, and the Mien needs to have some exotic feature to stand out among normal humans, at least when viewed closely.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Veindark View Post

                  Then again, I'm not sure if you're making yourself clear that the clothes are removable allowing the character to be nude or changing clothes.
                  In which case? If the clothes are actually part of the fae mien, a Changeling would indeed be able to be naked, if potentially with garments they could put on at any time. If the mien affects normal clothes, then they'd still be able to be naked simply because they could remove the clothing. If it was hedgespun clothing they were wearing, then, yes, it'd still be able to be removed.


                  Even if a Changeling is a burning pyre in human form, they are able to wear clothing without harming it (though their flames may still lick or cover it). Such is the way of the fae.

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                  • #10
                    Some meins look completely human... sorta. The fairest description of mirrorskin for example would look like a normal person... they just would just happen to look at least abit different every single time you see them....

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                    • #11
                      that's a weird one too. Does that effect not extend to the Mask unless they use their powers constantly?


                      A god is just a monster you kneel to. - ArcaneArts, Quoting "Fall of Gods"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Master Aquatosic View Post
                        that's a weird one too. Does that effect not extend to the Mask unless they use their powers constantly?
                        It'd extend to the mask, you'd still look like you but you might have some freckles they didn't notice you had yesterday, your eyes might be a slightly different tint but maybe it's just the light, your nose is slightly different in angle but not enough for people to notice the difference. People only notice somethings wrong when they see you after not seeing you for a long time because of how slow the slight changes are, but even then your "human" appearance limits the extent of how far it can get from looking like you.
                        Last edited by milo v3; 12-04-2016, 07:37 PM.

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                        • #13
                          ok, that makes sense


                          A god is just a monster you kneel to. - ArcaneArts, Quoting "Fall of Gods"

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