Given the effect of raw iron on a changeling, is it reasonable to theorize that they do not possess iron in their blood? Not all animals use iron to transport oxygen. The Horshoe crab is an example of this with its blue copper based blood . Going down that avenue of thinking would it also be reasonable to assume that their bodies would be somewhat intolerant to foods that are high in iron?
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It wouldn't be reasonable at all to assume that, because the frailty of iron is a consistent facet of Arcadian-derived fae and that's a category that includes everything from mostly-normal living creatures to rock trolls to sentient patches of haze. It's a magical weakness of magical beings, and that means the rules it works on aren't necessarily familiar to the mundane world.
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not to mention that the iron in living things and their remains exists as a small part of a larger protein of organic elements. And we all already know that combining iron with other materials weakens it's magical powers. But yeah, Satchel's right in that Hobgoblins can be beings whose biology doesn't make that amount of sense. How does a sentient patch of haze even eat? Why don't rock trolls eat rocks? My answer could be a hypothesis put forward by a Null Mysteriis scientist at first, but it wouldn't really apply to all hobgoblins on further inspection.
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I'd say it all comes down to symbolism. Steel isn't as effective as iron against fae, because people think of steel and iron as separate concepts, even though from a chemical standpoint the dividing line is blurry at best. But people do generally think of rust as part of iron, so it burns the fae, even though chemically it's not just Fe any more.
Similarly, most people don't think of blood as being iron-based, even though it is. So I don't think it would affect hobgoblins much if at all.
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Originally posted by Excess View PostThere is this idea going around of making a contract with iron, but can it be done? Or will the forming contract break on contact?
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A certain dragon Gentry is from a different edition. Did you mean to ask about first edition? That might have a different answer.
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Originally posted by Excess View Post
A certain dragon Gentry from night horrors is not going to like that.
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Originally posted by Van Owen View PostAll said Gentry Dragon needs to be rid of his problem is a very powerful (and perfectly mundane) electromagnet.
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Originally posted by Satchel View PostThe Gentry prefer to conduct their affairs in parts of the cosmology where the laws of physics are so inconsistent that something as simple as a firearm can't be expected to work properly. Contracts are guaranteed by a force that makes agreements work as long as they are adhere to because they are agreements that are being adhered to, which tends to be the level of consistency required for the dealings of a pack of divine tricksters that inhabit a place that changes to suit their own whims and those of their encroaching peers in ongoing power struggles.
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Dzarumazh explicitly spends a great deal of time in the mortal world, enough to have an established alternate identity with innumerable contacts and allies, a business front, and a paper trail dating back centuries. The Conqueror Worm is a pretty atypical Gentry.
That said, there is a pretty significant barrier to mundane solutions. Dzarumazh would have to trust another being enough to reveal his weakness and allow them to interact with it, and a combination of pride and paranoia makes that essentially impossible.
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Given some of the extremely powerful magnets, with up to 3,600lb pull force you can just buy, he probably just needs to order a couple of the things That much force should be more than sufficient to pull out a bit of iron, which I don't anticipate he'll need extra help with that. Just position it over the wound area, holding the thing in one claw, waiting for the iron to work its way to the source.
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Originally posted by Van Owen View PostGiven some of the extremely powerful magnets, with up to 3,600lb pull force you can just buy, he probably just needs to order a couple of the things That much force should be more than sufficient to pull out a bit of iron, which I don't anticipate he'll need extra help with that. Just position it over the wound area, holding the thing in one claw, waiting for the iron to work its way to the source.
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This is, of course, still assuming that mortal physics apply to the situation at all, and that's not guaranteed when we're talking about mythic beings whose entire schtick is that they are only bound to the bits of reality they are contractually obligated to acknowledge.
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