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  • #16
    You know what they say about three people keeping a secret.

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    • #17
      My concern was: if investigating the braninacs' institute, players come across the guardian angel and pick a fight without managing to defeat it, how much they covers will be compromised? And afterward the guardian will start to actively seek for them, maybe involving other angels in hunting?


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      • #18
        Originally posted by Ipergigio View Post
        My concern was: if investigating the braninacs' institute, players come across the guardian angel and pick a fight without managing to defeat it, how much they covers will be compromised? And afterward the guardian will start to actively seek for them, maybe involving other angels in hunting?

        One answer is: don't pick a fight. If their first response is violence, they are going to have a tough time being under Cover.

        If they do fight, stick to "normal" attacks/tactics and Embeds. Don't give the Angel any reason to suspect they aren't just mortal agents (or better, mercenaries or dupes).


        Malkydel: "And the Machine dictated; let there be adequate illumination."
        Yossarian: "And lo, it was optimal."

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Ipergigio View Post
          My concern was: if investigating the braninacs' institute, players come across the guardian angel and pick a fight without managing to defeat it, how much they covers will be compromised? And afterward the guardian will start to actively seek for them, maybe involving other angels in hunting?
          Their Covers would only be damaged in the mechanical sense if they suffer Compromise for using Exploits or Demonic Form Abilities. Their lower-case-c covers are of course blown, as the angel now recognizes them and will likely attack on sight. It will probably seek them out, but remember that the angel has to investigate - it's actually quite hard to find out who someone is just from having seen them once, so unless the PCs made the mistake of giving someone at the institute incriminating details about themselves, it'll have a devil of a time finding them.

          What it will not do is call in angelic backup, unless it already commands lesser angels. Angels are expected to perform their tasks only using whatever material the God-Machine has provided, in addition to what they themselves can acquire. In fact, they are completely incapable of even contemplating the possibility of failure, so even if they had the authority to request assistance or additional resources, they wouldn't. They can't fail. Why would they need help? According the the Storyteller's Guide, angels pretty much only call for "help" at the moment of their destruction, because only then can they truly accept that the mission is in jeopardy without further divine intervention.

          Failing Compromise rolls can still attract hunter angels as usual, of course, but the guardian won't just phone up HQ and request that a squad of hunter angels be deployed.
          Last edited by Terrorforge; 08-16-2017, 07:28 AM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Terrorforge View Post
            Their Covers would only be damaged in the mechanical sense if they suffer Compromise for using Exploits or Demonic Form Abilities. Their lower-case-c covers are of course blown, as the angel now recognizes them and will likely attack on sight. It will probably seek them out, but remember that the angel has to investigate - it's actually quite hard to find out who someone is just from having seen them once, so unless the PCs made the mistake of giving someone at the institute incriminating details about themselves, it'll have a devil of a time finding them.

            What it will not do is call in angelic backup, unless it already commands lesser angels. Angels are expected to perform their tasks only using whatever material the God-Machine has provided, in addition to what they themselves can acquire. In fact, they are completely incapable of even contemplating the possibility of failure, so even if they had the authority to request assistance or additional resources, they wouldn't. They can't fail. Why would they need help? According the the Storyteller's Guide, angels pretty much only call for "help" at the moment of their destruction, because only then can they truly accept that the mission is in jeopardy without further divine intervention.

            Failing Compromise rolls can still attract hunter angels as usual, of course, but the guardian won't just phone up HQ and request that a squad of hunter angels be deployed.
            The Cover should be fine, but speaking of the angel's resources, if it has access to a being able to change its appearance and can communicate appearance to frame the PCs of something awful, the angel's best chance is to have someone with the ability Doppelganger the PC(s) and then do something terrible but mundane with plenty of photographic evidence. That'd be an extremely low risk high impact assault on the PC without requiring knowing more than what they look like. Before the argument that is "too creative" for an Angel to come up with, the idea isn't creative at all. Mundane man hunts are a great source of drama, and the Angel is essentially outsourcing the work and that's so common a corporate efficiency model that I can't imagine not employing it fairly regularly. Shapeshifting beings are not that uncommon in the world where Chronicles of Darkness takes place so they wouldn't be too scarce a resource, a Scelenti or otherwise cruel and evil Thyrsus or some cryptid/horror would be perfect mercenaries for such a job.
            Without that it would likely need to use money for private investigators, again outsourcing the labor so it can focus on important things, like preparing for the interference in its mission that is sure to come.


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            • #21
              Originally posted by Pale_Crusader View Post

              The Cover should be fine, but speaking of the angel's resources, if it has access to a being able to change its appearance and can communicate appearance to frame the PCs of something awful, the angel's best chance is to have someone with the ability Doppelganger the PC(s) and then do something terrible but mundane with plenty of photographic evidence. That'd be an extremely low risk high impact assault on the PC without requiring knowing more than what they look like. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=507j5hba33tyn8wmzzi8s5e0"]Before the argument that is "too creative" for an Angel to come up with, the idea isn't creative at all[/URL]. Mundane man hunts are a great source of drama, and the Angel is essentially outsourcing the work and that's so common a corporate efficiency model that I can't imagine not employing it fairly regularly. Shapeshifting beings are not that uncommon in the world where Chronicles of Darkness takes place so they wouldn't be too scarce a resource, a Scelenti or otherwise cruel and evil Thyrsus or some cryptid/horror would be perfect mercenaries for such a job.
              Without that it would likely need to use money for private investigators, again outsourcing the labor so it can focus on important things, like preparing for the interference in its mission that is sure to come.
              Reptilians. Noted in the Demon core book for working with both Angels and Demons.


              Malkydel: "And the Machine dictated; let there be adequate illumination."
              Yossarian: "And lo, it was optimal."

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              • #22
                In situations like this it's also worth considering the angel's exact role and skill set.

                Is the angel specifically a manipulative secret agent inserted into the Institute's hierarchy to safeguard it from demonic intrusion? Then it almost certainly knows how to attack demons in subtle but devastating ways without exposing itself, like framing them for a crime, as suggested.

                Is it meant as an uncomplicated bruiser, enforcing company policy and plugging leaks with extreme prejudice? Then it's probably nowhere near that clever and will likely just warn security and wait for the PCs to come back so it can punch their teeth in.

                Angels aren't stupid, but they're one-dimensional. An angel that's designed for scheming can plot with the masters, but it's in all likelihood completely blind to every option that isn't backstabbing and deception. That's how demons get the better of them - strike from the blind spots.

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