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So, since there was some confusion over it on a Discord group I'm in, I'm going to ask this; how much does a non-Analyst Demon remember of their time as an Angel? I was under the impression their memories were fuzzy at best, but the text is confusing to look over for that. Some page numbers would be appreciated.Last edited by Taidragon; 12-21-2019, 09:15 PM.
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Originally posted by Taidragon View PostSo, since there was some confusion over it on a Discord group I'm in, I'm going to ask this; how much does a non-Analyst Demon remember of their time as an Angel? I was under the impression their memories were fuzzy at best, but the text is confusing to look over for that. Some page numbers would be appreciated.
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Originally posted by Taidragon View PostSo, since there was some confusion over it on a Discord group I'm in, I'm going to ask this; how much does a non-Analyst Demon remember of their time as an Angel? I was under the impression their memories were fuzzy at best, but the text is confusing to look over for that. Some page numbers would be appreciated.
He doesn’t remember much about before his assignment except that he was bodyless and directionless.
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From Demoon:Interface source material (the one about the step-daughter assignment), it would appear that yes, you remember the last assignment fairly well. Everything else is subject to ST discretion. If you are running a game, then it's up to you. The guideline is fuzzy such as you were a Messenger or Sword type of angel engaged in THIS or THAT type of activities. Sometimes angels are wiped between uses as well. Think about the Winter Soldier in Captain America. You were sent out, did you mission. If you started asking too many questions,, you were wiped usually.
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Originally posted by KieranMullen View PostLet's say the PC's manage to provoke a high Rank angel into Falling. What happens? Is there an explosion? Does the Angel collapse? Do they become a Primum 1 demon instantly?
Angels typically start at Primum 1 when they fall. Page 108 of the core rules. They only start with more if they gain some invaluable insight in the Fall.
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I was reading the Demon Storyteller's Guide (DSG) about Angelic Incepts and it states on page 84 for the Delivery Incept:
This Incept also allows the angel to spend Essence equal to the local Gauntlet to create a portal to any other ephemeral realm, from the Underworld to the Astral Realms to the Abyss.
What does it mean "any other ephemeral realm"? I would assume this would not include The Hedge but where else?
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Originally posted by Ghostdriver View PostI was reading the Demon Storyteller's Guide (DSG) about Angelic Incepts and it states on page 84 for the Delivery Incept:
This Incept also allows the angel to spend Essence equal to the local Gauntlet to create a portal to any other ephemeral realm, from the Underworld to the Astral Realms to the Abyss.
What does it mean "any other ephemeral realm"? I would assume this would not include The Hedge but where else?
If you instead think the inclusion of the Abyss was a mistake and it's only ephemeral realms that can be reached, then it's the Shadow, the Underworld and the Astral Realms. There are no other ephemeral realms that are known to us.
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Thanks Tessie. You make sense in that I think it's talking about "Underworld to the Astral Realms" as Ephemeral. To me, since it seems to add "to the Abyss" at the end, it seems that it is not included in the above but a total separate "place".
What about The Hedge? Rip the Gates Exploit allows this. Would it be safe to say that an Angel could travel there as well?
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As phrased the way it is, "to the Abyss" is included as an example of an ephemeral realm. It's not tucked on; it's part of the same list as the Underworld and the Astral.
The Hedge is not an ephemeral realm. Depending on how you rule the Incept to work at your table it may be possible at ST's discretion (if you open it up for all otherworldly realms) or impossible (if you, unlike the examples, limit it to only ephemeral realms).
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