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Fallen Blossoms is among my favorite Dark Eras- the setting itself is awesome, and the art is glorious. It is also full with crossover potential, together with story hooks and a great atmosphere of a distinct time and place. Among the compacts presented in the book, the Bijin are my favorite ones, while the Hototogisu's writeup got me all excited (I'm kinda obsessed with those guys- I call them the "new God Machine", that is some setting feature which is always mentioned but its nature isn't really clear). The only downside is that the Gimu didn't got into the finale version of the book, but we did got the Azusa Miko, and we do have their writeup from the blog, so it's not that bad.
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I was actually disappointed with the Hototogisu write up. Don't get me wrong, the idea of Merchants who have found a way to profit from monster hunting is a great one with a lot of potential (and historical precedence), it just didn't match up with the group given the same name in Requiem and Awakening. For one thing in both of those books the group is described as a recent one, not one with centuries of history. Awakening even declared it to be a Silver Ladder front.
I would have liked something of an explanation of how the group came from the Hunter group to a Ladder one that does business with Vampires.
The Bijin and Miko groups both fit very well with Japanese history and society, again with lots of potential uses.
I was surprised, especially with the Shogun supporting the hunt, that there were no Ninja based groups or even the flavor of such for groups like the Bajin.
I too have been considering a Tokyo chronicle, if I could just figure out a good way to run it in both modern and ancient time periods. Perhaps I need to dig a well?
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It's worth noting that David Hill said that the Hotogisu of the 1600's is not the same as the Hotogisu of today. I mean, he might have changed his mind, but that's the way it was.
Also, it's not a Silver Ladder Front, the Silver Ladder just has a guy who is in the board of directors.
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Originally posted by ArcaneArts View PostIt's worth noting that David Hill said that the Hotogisu of the 1600's is not the same as the Hotogisu of today. I mean, he might have changed his mind, but that's the way it was.
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Originally posted by 2ptTakrill View PostI was actually disappointed with the Hototogisu write up. Don't get me wrong, the idea of Merchants who have found a way to profit from monster hunting is a great one with a lot of potential (and historical precedence), it just didn't match up with the group given the same name in Requiem and Awakening. For one thing in both of those books the group is described as a recent one, not one with centuries of history. Awakening even declared it to be a Silver Ladder front.
I'm not going to spill it here. But think of it like the Knights Templar and the Freemasons. Sure, there are some associations, iconography, and other ties. But, they're not the same.
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Originally posted by MachineIV View Post
There are things tying the two groups together loosely. But they're not the same. The Hunters did not become a modern corporation.
I'm not going to spill it here. But think of it like the Knights Templar and the Freemasons. Sure, there are some associations, iconography, and other ties. But, they're not the same.
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My theory is that "Inoue Akio" is not an actual person- instead, I think it is more in the lines of Yodogiri Jinnai's case from Durarara. That is, a circle of people who are using the same name through the course of history and lead an organization called the "Hototogisu". The exact nature of the organization and its leader change with the current Akio, and every once and awhile the organization fall- only for it to rise again by another who use the Akio moniker, to achieve new goals as the leader of a new Hototogisu.
Oh, and there is a giant Cuckoo demon-goddess behind all of it- but never mind that :P
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Originally posted by LostLight View PostMy theory is that "Inoue Akio" is not an actual person- instead, I think it is more in the lines of Yodogiri Jinnai's case from Durarara. That is, a circle of people who are using the same name through the course of history and lead an organization called the "Hototogisu". The exact nature of the organization and its leader change with the current Akio, and every once and awhile the organization fall- only for it to rise again by another who use the Akio moniker, to achieve new goals as the leader of a new Hototogisu.
Oh, and there is a giant Cuckoo demon-goddess behind all of it- but never mind that :P
Alternatives include but are not limited to:
Could be a complete coincidence
Could be a relative with the same name
Could be the same guy
The name could be a magical power, who gets stolen by new people
Could just be an homage
Could technically be two different names. The way kanji work, you could have thirty different people with the same sounding name, who all have technically different names because of the various readings
That's just a few off the top of my head.
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Originally posted by MachineIV View Post
Could technically be two different names. The way kanji work, you could have thirty different people with the same sounding name, who all have technically different names because of the various readings
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Could be an example of the Shadow Name Merit, if the modern Ladder Mage learned of the history of the original and his organization he might have borrowed the symbolism of a centuries old compact that 'took power' from Vampires.
In which book might we get the whole story, eventually?
I also noticed that Fallen Blossoms gave away the secret of Nakatomi and it has little in common with the modern myths and does a 180 from the Hierarch's claims. That means his copy of Nakatomi's rules is truly fake.Last edited by 2ptTakrill; 03-04-2017, 11:59 PM.
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I haven't read the whole book yet but so far I would have to say that Fallen Blossoms is my potential favorite.
As one of the core settings we have more information about it than is included in this book.
It is focused on one city making it easy to further develop the setting as a home base, while its location on the Shogun's roads make it easy to include the rest of Japan in a chronicle.
I'm not big on Hunter but the example compacts really fit the setting. The Baijin wouldn't even need supernatural elements to fit in and play a significant role.
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