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  • Playing an Ordinary Mortal who can stand up to Supernatural Enemies?

    So, just like the thread Title says. Is there any way to play a completely ordinary mortal who can go up against a supernatural threat on 'fair' terms and win?

  • Pale_Crusader
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    Originally posted by Enginseer-42 View Post
    So, just like the thread Title says. Is there any way to play a completely ordinary mortal who can go up against a supernatural threat on 'fair' terms and win?
    Car bombs, roadside bombs, and collapsing skyscrapers that were hit via airplanes...

    Originally posted by Deceased Prince of New York
    This is how secure my haven is, I'll tell you where it is an you shall still be unable to harm me... It is in one of the Twin Towers, thrice enchanted with wards by a council of Magi which rule the world, whose security can't be beat, for the Magi meet there as well. Before anyone with violent intent could even reach the floor I am on, or even know which it is they'd be detected magically and the Magi would have mortal pawns detain them. That is one of the reasons the Twin Towers are Elysium.
    The aforementioned Magi were (posthumously, they are also dead) Seers of the Throne. As a hypothetical example. BTW I use the World Trade Center in Portland Oregon as an Elysium and example of a haven of the three ruling Carthian Reeves.
    Last edited by Pale_Crusader; 07-09-2017, 03:28 PM.

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  • nofather
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    Hunting Demons is best done in the 'enemy of my enemy' fashion. Don't mistake the God Machine for your friend but it's a lot more capable of snuffing out a Demon forever.

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  • ArcaneArts
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    Fair enough.

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  • MCN
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    Originally posted by ArcaneArts View Post
    Rinse and repeat. They still take one damage each time, and each time they use it, they get closer to (dramatically) failing the roll.

    No kill like overkill.
    Then we're no longer playing rocket tag. The point is that demons are potentially immune to rocket tag, while they can easily dish out their own "rockets." Getting to a state where you can rinse and repeat is difficult. There are more survival-oriented options for dealing with one of the Unchained that don't involve direct conflict and very likely death.

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  • Vent0
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    Originally posted by ArcaneArts View Post
    Rinse and repeat. They still take one damage each time, and each time they use it, they get closer to (dramatically) failing the roll.

    No kill like overkill.

    There is no overkill - just Enough Kill and Not Enough Kill.

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  • ArcaneArts
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    Originally posted by MCN View Post
    not if they have the Just Bruised embed, which is pretty common. JB works when surprise attacked too, making such attacks a big gamble.
    Rinse and repeat. They still take one damage each time, and each time they use it, they get closer to (dramatically) failing the roll.

    No kill like overkill.

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  • MCN
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    Originally posted by Professor Phobos View Post
    Demons are also pretty vulnerable to Ye Olde Fashioned Car Bomb and/or Sniper Rifle. The trick for hunters is finding the enemy and then not being found by the enemy. The rocket tag part is relatively easy.
    not if they have the Just Bruised embed, which is pretty common. JB works when surprise attacked too, making such attacks a big gamble.

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  • HelmsDerp
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    The Lost Boys template from Hurt Locker are created with a serum that is arguably scientific rather than supernatural, despite being in the section for supernatural mortals, and they can potentially win a slugging match with some supernats. Whether they're on the table depends on how much you want to stretch the definition.

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  • Master Aquatosic
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    Of Course, that could lead to you either becoming a tool of the God-Machine or getting killed to keep his secrets

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  • Professor Phobos
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    Demons are also pretty vulnerable to Ye Olde Fashioned Car Bomb and/or Sniper Rifle. The trick for hunters is finding the enemy and then not being found by the enemy. The rocket tag part is relatively easy.

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  • MCN
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    Network Zero demon hunters. Now equiped with Google Glasses (TM). Fear them.

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  • Vent0
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    Originally posted by MCN View Post
    With demons? They have a weakness to being exposed, at which point hunter angels come to slaughter them. So, not quite 'fair,' as the OP puts it, but its still a valid tactic for taking down a supernatural that doesn't require the mortal to be supernatural themselves.
    Exampiel: "John, John, John... I can wear any face and bend reality itself to my whims. Why did you think you, a mere normal human, could come here and confront me?"
    John: "Well, maybe I can't. But I'm sure live streaming your face and this confrontation for the past few minutes can't be good for you."
    ...
    El Envioiel: "We have you surrounded, Traitor."
    Last edited by Vent0; 07-07-2017, 10:37 AM.

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  • MCN
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    With the exception of Mages, Demons and Beasts, pretty much every supernatural critter in the world has some kind of bane you can use to really mess up its day. And, even in the case of mages and beasts, a sniper shot will take them down easily - surprise attacks are deadly since putting up their armor takes a bit of thought on part of the characters. Very little thought, but by the time the bullets hit? Its too late. With demons? They have a weakness to being exposed, at which point hunter angels come to slaughter them. So, not quite 'fair,' as the OP puts it, but its still a valid tactic for taking down a supernatural that doesn't require the mortal to be supernatural themselves.

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  • nofather
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    Providing you aren't taking it to a ring, sure. Every gameline has faults and waeknesses that can be taken advantage of. Starting cells is how some of these 'superhunters' might take advantage of them. Find some people, organize them against a threat, let them loose, then deal with the real issue while they're being a distraction.

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