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Why Are Slasher So Popular and why are they returning in Second edition?

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  • #31
    I've never played Hunter so I can only speculate, but here's my two cents worth.
    I was under the impression that the importance of Slashers in Hunter is that they represented what could happen if the main splat went too far and lost their tenuous grip on humanity. Vampires become Daugr, Werewolves become Bale Hounds and Mages the Mad. Hunters became Slashers, losing sight of who they are hunting and why.

    In real life Serial Killers are people driven by an overwhelming desire/need to kill who pick their victims because some perceived trait or action makes then abhorrent to them, enticing to them or just because they saw an opportunity and couldn't resist it.

    In Slasher films, and many other horror films, it's all about the dangers of trespassing where you shouldn't, be it a location or by engaging in forbidden activities. Don't leave the safety of the city and civilization for the backwoods, don't go into the house at the end of the street, stay away from neighborhoods where you don't belong, don't leave the safety of the light for the mysterious dark.

    As for the prevalence in Slasher films for targeting teens having sex, that isn't because the movie's makers are champions of morality or trying to warn kids to be good, it's just a good excuse to put a little TnA in the movie to boost ticket sales.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by 2ptTakrill View Post
      IWerewolves become Bale Hounds
      Zi'ir. Bale Hounds are a different direction.

      Hunters are basically slashers as it is. They just have a focused prey and mindset that lets them keep from thinking of themselves as murderers. Once you start varying from that mindset, or changing it too much, then you're a slasher. They're popular because they're a real and sensationalized though grim part of humanity, and relevant to hunter because the other direction is 'shellshocked person who does nothing' which isn't incredibly impactful from a storytelling perspective.
      Last edited by nofather; 04-23-2019, 06:02 PM.

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      • #33
        well speaking of Slashers, the movie The Visitor seems to have an antagonist who is perfect inspiration for a psycho or at least charmer on the edge of scourgedom. in relation, slasher movies inspired the slasher of hunter: the vigil. while slasher movies may have whatever problems you perceive, slasher of hunter have their own lore and come to their state from a vast number of origins. the book itself does state mental illness as a possibility, but makes sure to state that this way is to be handled with care

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        • #34
          Originally posted by 2ptTakrill View Post
          As for the prevalence in Slasher films for targeting teens having sex, that isn't because the movie's makers are champions of morality or trying to warn kids to be good, it's just a good excuse to put a little TnA in the movie to boost ticket sales.
          That's not quite the criticism. It's that there's specifically a tendency to associate it with the characters who end up dead. There's a question of how common that actually is, but it's certainly a trope of the genre. The intent is actually kinda secondary at this point.

          That said, transparent as it is, making your piece of art a nominal morality play is a super common tactic to avoid censors. Also perhaps more importantly for us, it gives your audience a degree of plausible deniability.


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          • #35
            I'd also point out that one of the issues with giving too much weight to "genre tropes" is that it creates a concept of "essential" elements to something being part of a genre. Genre tropes aren't that. They're noticing trends and using them to help categorize, because human brains love to do that.

            The more notable a piece of work is within the genre, the less likely it actually represents the genre tropes all that well. One of the things that makes for forgettable and uninfluential entries is that they focus on following the "formula" for the genre to pump out something quick, easy, and cheap that people will go and watch because it's familiar.

            For example, the Friday the 13th series' point is that Pamela (and then Jason for it) are bad because they go too far in their moralizing. Pamela has every freaking right to be angry as hell that a bunch of teenagers were so focused on sex, drugs, and rock & roll that they let her kid drown. What makes her such a hypocrite, is that she doesn't even wait for teens to do anything bad... she just starts killing them. The whole "virginal" aspect of the Final Girl is absent from most of the series; as plenty of characters that should be 'safe' under this Trope die anyway.

            Halloween is far more responsible for this Trope due to Michael Myers lacking any real motivations for his killings. Without any ascribed motives, the fact that he kills either people directly in his way, or teens that are drinking and/or having sex, draws more attention to the metanarrative of teens dying for their vices.

            When you put these things in the "genre blender" you lose sight of how disparate the application of genre tropes can really be.

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