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    Ok, so after discussing one of the oldest conspiracies in the world, let's start discussing the other oldest conspiracy in the world- the Ascending Ones.

    So, here is what we know- the Ascending Ones are a very fractured conspiracy, made out of alchemists, religious militia and drug traders. They are Egyptian in origin, and have operated in a strange space during that time, as a dual cult where one side is dedicated to the Phoenix (aka the deity Bennu) and the other served Set/Sutekh. We also know that those cults claim to have protected Egypt since the time of Narmer- that is, from the very beginning of the Nile civilization, and that they came into dispute during the rule of Akhenaten- after which each cult claims the other corrupted and dead. We also know that each of the cults have a very different documentation of those events, which confuses things even more. Beyond that, we also know that the Ascending Ones are considered to be alchemists in the eyes of Promethean 2e (with the Order of the Southern Temple potentially consider making a Promethean), and that the Jagged Crescent claims to be the oldest of the sects and besides selling drugs, it also fights the influence of the Arisen- as it is claimed that the early Deathless activity was what caused the formation of the twin cults which guard both day and night. We also know that the conspiracy is very hermetic in nature, using its philosophy especially through the eyes of Muslim culture (meaning, Prophet Idris), and that the body which connects the different links in the chain which makes the conspiracy is certain prophets known as the Ascended Ones, which are probably true alchemists among other things.

    Ok, so where does it lead us with the true goals and origin of the Ascending Ones?

    First, we know that they are old- which is not surprising. What we do know, however, that even after rising after Cataclysm X (which is how we are going to call the "mummy incident" which caused the rise of the two cults), they did not had a working form of Elixirs up until after the rule of Akhenaten. We also know that the Cult of Set weren't always vampires, even though it would have been fitting- while the Cult of Set guarded the night and the Cult of the Phoenix guarded the day, both groups seem to agree that the Cult of Set became vampires only during the schism between he two groups, turning to the Embrace around when the Cult of the Phoenix discovered stable Elixirs by combing faith and poison, which only strengthens the feeling that something happened, something so terrible that not only caused the split but drove those two groups to find two very different methods to survive, which we will now call Cataclysm B (that is, the "Akhenaten incident").

    Now, the main point of disagreement between the two stories is the relation of those groups to the figure of Akhenaten. From one hand, the Ascending Ones see him as a heroic figure, who rose while the Great Cults were all infiltrated by vampires and helped to protect the people by bringing the faith in the one god Aten, the Sun, and that they later themselves got rid of the corrupted remains of the Cult of Set. From the other hand, the Followers of Set claim that he was a Witch Pharaoh, who sacrificed his own wife-daughter to some eldritch power and brought death and ruin which the Cult of Set escaped only by turning themselves into vampires, and that the Cataclysm B which came as a result destroyed the Cult of the Phoenix. So yeah, we clearly have a dissent in here- so if we want to get a sense of whatever happened during Cataclysm B, we need, at the very least, know who the hell is right.

    So if we consider the Cult of Set's version of the story, we have a number of proofs which support their claims- first, they are vampires, some of which are old enough to claim to remember those instances. Second, the Khabit Bloodline claims to be the product of Cataclysm B, and it should be noticed that while in 2e they have the same Clan Disciplines as Mekhet (with the addition of Vigor), if we consider the 1e version their true prime Disciplines are in fact Auspex, Celerity and Vigor- which leans towards them have a slightly different origin than the rest of the Mekhet. Finally, their story also tends to use the Name Which Must Not Be Written (aka NWMNBW), which is a part of Hunter's lore. Also, hunters are generally being misguided, which makes it that whatever the Ascending Ones have to say, it is less likely to be correct.

    From the other hand, the hunters also have a number of evidence for their own claim- first, Aten is a symbol of the sun, which makes sense for a priests which fights against vampire corruption within cults. We also know that almost all cults, including the Cult of Set, were already infested with vampires during the time of Akhenaten according to Ancient Mysteries- which is a Vampire book- and as such it is likely that his figure got demonized by vampires. Also, unlike the story which the Followers of Set use, the story of the Ascending Ones is first hand documentation, written by someone who actually witnessed the events (and we are going to assume top be authentic or else there is nothing to discuss here). Finally, we need to remember that vampires freaking lie all the time, which makes it that whatever the Followers of Set have to say, it is less likely to be correct.

    However, we also know, for a fact, that there is one point in which both version of the story are wrong- neither group did actually got destroyed by Cataclysm B, whatever it may be.

    So, what the hell has happened?

    For this, we need to consider two other sources- the first is Ancient Mysteries. As mentioned before, this book does support the claim of vampiric corruption within the cults- many vampires incorporated themselves into the different cults of the era, and we do know that the Cult of Set was compromised by vampires before Akhenaten. However, during Akhenaten's rule, a lot of cults had to choose sides to either support or rebel against the king- and according to that book, it ended with a civil war which brought the end of the Cult of Set and the exile of the Cult of Horus- which sounds nice and all, but this version of the story only complicates things even further. First, we do know that both Cults claim that the Cult of Set was involved with the Pharaonic politics up until after the death of Akhenaten- so they probably laid so low that even other vampire cults didn't know that they were still around. Second, there is no mention of the Cult of Bennu/ the Phoenix in this version, so we already know that at least some factors were not included in here. It also should be important to notice what this version doesn't include- witches. Akhenaten is not mentioned to be a evil magician of any kind in here, which if was the case we would have expected to see more vampires joining the cults of Set and Horus in fighting his influence, as the whole shtick of the Setite version is that Cataclysm B was avoided by the Cult by turning into vampires. So yeah, we don't see any mention of Akhenaten as a evil Pharaoh in here- so does it mean that the Cult of Set's version is simply wrong?

    Well, I won't say "wrong"- but maybe... intentionally misguided? Because here is the thing- we do know that (a) the Ascending Ones do have an Elixir which allows one to become a vampire, which supports the Setitie version of Cataclysm B and (b) that the Ascending Ones also have stories about a Witch Pharaoh- the Empty Pharaoh.

    One of the more forgettable Hunter fictions, the Witch Finder entry for the Ascending Ones talks about Pharaoh Merenre, brother of Nitocris, a witch who defiled both the living and the dead. Using forbidden magic, he created soulless armies of the living and the dead by using a form of ants and locust which are made out of bronze which swarmed into living bodies and devoured their brains in order to control them. Eventually, the Empty Pharaoh was defeated with the help of his sister, Nitocris, yet one of the ants devoured her heart and took control over her, continuing to bring ruin to the world until she walked into the "Chamber of Ashes" and was done with. Sounds like a promising compromise, right? Nitocris and the Empty Pharaoh sounds a lot like the Setite version of Akhenaten and the thing which he made into his wife. So the AO are right and the Setitie just melded two different versions of the story together, right?

    One problem- Nitocris doesn't exist.

    There are just no actual references for Nitocris as a real person- nothing supports that she truly existed, neither archeologically or historically. The Greek are the only ones to claim so, but the Egyptians have left no mention of her- which you could say to be a sign for trying to remove her existence as they did as punishment for some very hated people, but still- it is far more likely that she was never a real person. While we do have a vampire who has the same name as her, it is far more likely that Nitokris the Mekhet is NOT the legendary sister of the Empty Pharaoh, as she is not burned to ash and has no ant in her heart. In that case, should it all be regarded as a legend based on a distortion created by the Setitie? Or maybe the Setitie combined a legend of their own in order to demonize Akhenaten?

    Again, one problem- Nitocris may not be real, but the ants are definitely real.

    We see references for their existence here and there- like the brain eating ants in the core or their mention in Deviant. The ants are around, and the AO are the only ones to give an explanation for them, even though, again, their origin story is somewhat distorted. In that case, we are left with a Empty Pharaoh which may or may not be Akhenaten, an event which brought the existence of the bronze ants and something which caused the Cult of Set to turn themselves into vampires- and now we have two things we need to consider. First, that the AO have an Elixir which could make a person into a vampire. And second, the involvement of the NWMNBW.

    Let's start with the second point- the NWMNBW is a recurring concept across the Witch Finders book and a strong part of Hunter's mythology. While we are going to delve more deeply into it in a future KoSG post, it is VERY likely that the NWMNBW is a reference for the Explicit Name of God- only in a dark and sinister way, referring to some sort of an abyssal intrusion, as the NWMNBW seems to be the way that the Knights control their demons (again, more on it in a future theory). Now, here is the thing we should care about- many consider Akhenaten as the origin of Monotheism, putting one sun god over all other gods, and relate him to Moses in different ways. As such, making such a connection between Akhenaten and the NWMNBW is not THAT far fetched, just like how the Knights twist monotheism in order to summon the dreams of the Abyss into reality. The reference for the NWMNBW makes it more likely that Cataclysm B did contained a witch of some sort- but the way I see it, it becomes ever more and more likely that Cataclysm B is in fact two different events which were melded together by the Setite- which we are no going to define as Cataclysm B (the Empty Pharaoh incident) and Cataclysm C (the Akhenaten incident).

    Ok, so time to sum all of this up-

    As it seems, the origin of the Ascending Ones is with Cataclysm A- something which happened during the time that Egypt was not yet, well, Egypt. Apparently someone awakened a mummy, caused some chaos, and ended up with the formation of the twin cults of Set and Bennu. Those two cults divided the duty to protect the day and night between them, which worked well for a time until a certain Pharaoh became a witch, probably a Scelesti, and used the NWMNBW in order to draw upon the dreams of the Annunaki in order to defile both the living and the dead, triggering Catclysm B. The Cult of Set, in order to escape it, used an unstable version of alchemy in order to transform themselves into vampires, while the Cult of the Phoenix used the help of his sister/wife to fight him. However, the Empty Pharaoh have also summoned the brass ants as part of his ritual to fight the cults, and his sister ended up becoming a puppet. In the end, the trick was found, the Empty Pharaoh was destroyed, "Nitocris" walked into the Chamber of Ashes and the end was a very fractured Cult of the Phoenix- and a very compromised Cult of Set. Now, here the Khaibit origin story enters, and it is likely that by guarding the night, the Cult of Set have hidden their transformation from their twin cult, recruiting more humans to maintain a fa├žade. As the Cult of the Phoenix couldn't really do much investigation, they bought it- and they kept the secret for centuries... until eventually, too many vampires got into too many cults. As a result, the Cult of the Phoenix have supported Akhenaten in his claim for a single god- Aten, the God of the Sun, which would allow them do both religious reforms and help to drive people from the vampire worship that was going on- something which the Cult of Set immediately considered as a betrayal, as Aten resonated so strongly with the NWMNBW and the Empty Pharaoh. Worse, it could very well be that Akhenaten WAS a witch, but just not a bad one, but the Cult of Set recognized him as an enemy, feeling both betrayed by their twin cult AND in danger of being exposed.. which they were. And at this point, it was an all out war, triggering Cataclysm C which ended with the Cult of the Phoenix discovering how to stabilize Elixirs, attacking the Cult of Set and killing a bunch- but apparently, the Cult of Set have simply tricked the now Ascending Ones, letting them kill the wrong vampires in order to escape.

    That all falls nicely- except of one problem. Why to have three Cataclysms when you can have two? What if in the end, the mysterious Cataclysm A which triggered the creation of the two cults was, in fact, the horror of the Empty Pharaoh?

    I mean, let's consider it for a second- unlike the AKD, the AO have no actual reason to dislike mages, and you would have thought that if the whole Empty Pharaoh incident was important, it would have shaped their relation towards magic users- yet mages are not the only ones who use magic. Sorcerers can use Sekhem in order to invoke similarly strange powers, and there are theories that Sekhem Sorcerers were once much stronger. Could it be that the events which founded the twin cults, aka Cataclysm A, was in fact the Empty Pharaoh incident- a witch king of great power which broke reality and used the NWMNBW in order to contact the Abyss and gain even greater power over all life and all souls? And that in order to fight this power, the proto alchemists of the land used forbidden magic to fight against the Pharaoh with the help of his sister and her followers, yet the only way to avoid the horrors he spawned (such as reanimated metal ants) was becoming like vampires- basically, the first form of alchemy used by the cults was Blood Alchemy, and the survivors managed to fight together against the threat with some sacrifices (such as the sister getting heart eaten by the ants). Centuries later, that story would be partially forgotten, getting related either to Nitocris (the vampire, which in the historical legend became a Queen) or Akhenaten (in order to demonize the Pharaoh). After the event, the vampires (the first Khabit) took it upon themselves to defend the night from similar, untold horrors, while the human alchemists took upon themselves to defend the day- but the vampires have slowly made their presence more and more hidden among the growing Cult of Set while the growing Cult of the Phoenix have either forgot or ignored that part of their twin cult's "dark secret"- which makes sense about how the cults grew "impotent" to protect Egypt. The writer tries to re-edit history so the future generations will not ask "why you worked with vampires"- the higher ones probably knew, but most of the cult didn't and the higher ups try, through writing, to cover this up. Fast forwards a millennia later, and you have the Cult of the Phoenix no longer being able to ignore the vampiric activity, and the lower ranks push the higher ranks to do something about it. Akhenaten comes with religious reforms and the symbol of the sun, and potentially being a mage of some kind, and gains the immediate support of most of the Phoenix's members. The Seitites, however, see it as a betrayal and a threat- a war starts among the Cults, both the vampiric and vigilante. Eventually, the clash ends with the twin cults breaking apart once and for all, as the vampires take rule in the open and the elders of the Phoenix no longer being able to restrain the low ranked ones. They get involved in politics, people get killed, the Phoenix discover how to stabilize alchemy and destroy the Cult of Set- or at least, they think they do. It was a set up- maybe the cult was even warned in advance by the leaders of the Ascending Ones. We can no longer work together, they thought for themselves, but let's end it peacefully. The hunters kill a number of vampires who they believe to be Setite, the Setite go under cover, and the whole instance gets silenced.

    Notice, however, that this theory requires one thing- that the AO knew alchemy BEFORE Akhenaten. And yes, they probably knew. Here is the thing- the first Ascending Ones did managed to create the Elixirs, but they were just very, very deadly, which means that they had the knowledge, but something was missing. They used poison and faith in order to trigger some sort of internal alchemy, but that may not have been how the process originally worked. Here, I offer an alternative.

    Blood Alchemy.

    What if the Cult of the Phoenix knew how to use Elixirs, but they required Vitae to do so? Perhaps through special alchemy they removed the addictive quality of Vitae- or maybe not. That could explain why the elders of the cult were hiding the presence of vampires among the Setite- they hid their source, and THAT would work well with the Jagged Crescent being the oldest sect. They were drug traffickers since the very beginning- but originally, the used Vitae instead of narcotics. However, after the split during Akhenaten's rule, they could no longer use Vitae, and their Elixirs stopped working- driving them to find an alternative in the form of poisons modified through internal alchemy and faith in higher powers. Fast forward the the time of late Rome, and Hermeticism starts growing. Greek and Roman scholars have learned the alchemical traditions, and work their own methods for creating Elixirs using Azoth, and eventually they start working together with the Ascending Ones, becoming the founders for the Order of the Southern Temple. They bring with them Hermetic Philosophy, learning and teaching from the local alchemists and improving their Elixirs while introducing new ones. Hermes Trismegistus becomes a popular character among the Ascending Ones. Later, the Muslims come the Egypt, conquering it- bringing with them their own alchemical knowledge and traditions. Some of their scholars also revere Hermes, Thrice Great, identifying him as the Prophet Idris. They become the Knife of Paradise, the military arm of the Ascending Ones- taking the fight for the supernatural while using magical Elixirs. The three sects work together, each is doing its own thing while still serving the same principle of fighting against the darkness, unity through alchemy.

    Alright, that all explains the Ascending Ones- but what about the Ascended Ones?

    Without the prophets which bind the different sects together, the whole conspiracy would have broken down ages ago- as such, they definitely do have a role to play- and I believe it is a very simple one: Akhenaten was a Ascended. That would explain the connection to the sun, the different agenda, the relation to monotheism and that his time was the one to establish new version of alchemy, one without blood magic. As the first Ascended, he would make sense as the founding figure of the Ascending Ones. In that matter, Hermes may have himself been a Ascended One- and that his own followers have met their Egyptian parallels and found common group through their prophets. Then comes the muslims who follow their own Prophet (I am not going to claim or deny Muhammad being an Ascended One as religion is a sensitive subject, so do whatever you feel appropriate), so the idea of a group which claims to have been led by certain Prophets, one of which was identified as a true Prophet by Muslim traditions (Idris), and slowly the group comes together under the faith in those Ascended Ones, and start follow them in search for new knowledge and help in fighting the darkness- and perhaps those prophets are by themselves being drawn to the conspiracy. With the muslim alchemists, also come the knowledge about the djinn, which reveal new alchemical methods and how to contact the Heavens. Eventually, through the links of prophecy and alchemy, the Ascending Ones turn from a ancient blood cult into one of the largest conspiracies to practice the Vigil- scattered yet unified.

    Ok- so this is where they came from, but what the hell do they want?

    Basically, Ascension.

    It may sound similar to the AKD's endgame- but it isn't. The AO are much more fractured than the AKD, and have no need to search after a utopia which will not fail. Instead, what the Ascending Ones seek is purification- unity which crosses time and space. Their prophets slowly leads them through the generations, which means that at least some divine power has interest in them- and it could very well be the Principle or even God Himself. What the Ascending Ones seek is the goal of alchemy, the goal of Hermeticism- to become one with the Divine Will and purify themselves and the world. It is not only for them, and not only for people- the darkness needs also to be redeemed. The world needs to be purified, and by having a world scale level alchemy they could invoke the same rite which they use to transform poison into power through faith, they could transform the darkness into light through the same principle. Fractured people, spread around the world, using the djinn as world scale furnace under the advices of their Prophets- and together, they could use alchemy to remove the darkness from the world, turning monsters into people and maintain the supernatural as enlightenment blessed by God. That's why they are not so keen on immediately killing monsters, but also try to find peaceful solutions alongside their Vigil. The duality of the Cults of Set and the Phoenix is a microcosms of the duality of the Light and Darkness in the world- which means that whatever they plan to purify the darkness, they need first to not only find that the Setite still exist- but to find a way to connect with them as well, paving the way for their final alchemical formula. And good luck with that.

    And of course, there is still the remnants of the Empty Pharaoh's legacy who are need to be dealt with- but what could go wrong with that?

    Well, that's it for today dear Vigilante- see you next time, and never stop using your gnogging!


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    Little aside, what are the Witches, are they a skewed interpretation of the Awakened, something similar but yet different, a whole different power or a jumbled conflation of many different things through the distorted lens of ill-informed Vigil observation?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Baaldam View Post
      Little aside, what are the Witches, are they a skewed interpretation of the Awakened, something similar but yet different, a whole different power or a jumbled conflation of many different things through the distorted lens of ill-informed Vigil observation?
      Witches as found in Witch Finder or witches as discussed at the various points of AO's history?

      The former are Vigil's semi-response to the Awakened (the broad strokes mirror the Awakened while still being simpler and also not-gonna-make-hunting-them-a-Memento-style-pain-in-the-ass), semi-covering all the traditions of witches you might need in a game of Hunter. The latter is AO demonstrating the problem of a long history of dealign with things-it's a lot of different things from different places that are probably more clear in context (barring it's position in the addition curve of gamelines) but can summarily be understood under a branch title.


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      • #4
        Originally posted by ArcaneArts View Post
        Witches as found in Witch Finder or witches as discussed at the various points of AO's history?

        The former are Vigil's semi-response to the Awakened (the broad strokes mirror the Awakened while still being simpler and also not-gonna-make-hunting-them-a-Memento-style-pain-in-the-ass), semi-covering all the traditions of witches you might need in a game of Hunter. The latter is AO demonstrating the problem of a long history of dealign with things-it's a lot of different things from different places that are probably more clear in context (barring it's position in the addition curve of gamelines) but can summarily be understood under a branch title.

        Was mostly messing around with both Lost Light's musings on the lore of the two cults and some off-the-wall takes on the books, like the possibility of Witches as described in Witch-Finders perhaps being something more than "broad strokes awakened" (hence my linking of the False Awakening for example), in much the same way that Night Stalkers would bring to foreground some vampiric things that were definitely not the kindred clans we know (while also missing hard at least one).


        For example, the tale of Empty Pharaoh's soulless armies of the living and the dead, created with a form of ants and locust which are made out of bronze which swarmed into living bodies and devoured their brains in order to control them. Well, that made me think of something, you know.


        Not to mention, some things can seen curiously similar to certain outdated others. Or some beings who make me think not to a small degree of the peculiar magics of the Sons of Phobos and the Jiangshi. Though these ones are probably much closer, i guess.
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        • #5
          Very interesting, I admit the Ascending Ones don't really appeal to me, but their history with the cult of set is a plot hook with a lot of potential.

          2 questions. Considering you mentioned the Principle and God, when you say ascension do you mean in general, not specifically supernal ascension? And sorry for the ignorance, but exactly who is NWSNBW?

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          • #6
            Baaldam On the subject of witches in the CofD- in this writeup, "witch" is treated as a broad blanket term, as Arc mentioned. Thaumaturges, alchemists, sorcerers, mages, whatever the Ascended actually are, everything would fall under it. However, I also personally treat the Gutter Magic witches as their own thing, which derive their powers from the Supernal in a more holistic way without a true Awakening. I could expand on it, but this would be its own thread. In this subject, I've treated the Empty Pharaoh as a Sekhem Sorcerer which may or may not have had the backing of a mummy and probably made contact with the Abyss. Things ended up bad for everyone, as you imagine.

            Primordial newcomer I mean Ascension in a broader sense than the Awakened concept- basically, transform the world through alchemy to change the poison into enlightenment, treating the darkness as the lead which would become gold. As for the NWMNBW- the Name Who Must Not Be Written is a recurring theme in Witch Finders which relates to whatever power which gives power to witches. Whatever it actually means is unknown, but I'm going to delve more into it in the KoSG's essay for obvious reasons


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            • #7
              Originally posted by LostLight View Post
              Baaldam On the subject of witches in the CofD- in this writeup, "witch" is treated as a broad blanket term, as Arc mentioned. Thaumaturges, alchemists, sorcerers, mages, whatever the Ascended actually are, everything would fall under it. However, I also personally treat the Gutter Magic witches as their own thing, which derive their powers from the Supernal in a more holistic way without a true Awakening. I could expand on it, but this would be its own thread. In this subject, I've treated the Empty Pharaoh as a Sekhem Sorcerer which may or may not have had the backing of a mummy and probably made contact with the Abyss. Things ended up bad for everyone, as you imagine.
              Good to know, since i'm also one prone to treating Gutter Magic as its own peculiar thing of somewhat unclear, to say the least, origins.

              And about the pharaoh's origins and connections, the crapstorm possibilities are indeed endless. In a Requiem game i once crossed the Melissidae curse with Abyssal Spiders - ok, technically bees in their case - to most entertainingly eerie synergic results and hooks for the chronicle.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by LostLight View Post
                Baaldam On the subject of witches in the CofD- in this writeup, "witch" is treated as a broad blanket term, as Arc mentioned. Thaumaturges, alchemists, sorcerers, mages, whatever the Ascended actually are, everything would fall under it. However, I also personally treat the Gutter Magic witches as their own thing, which derive their powers from the Supernal in a more holistic way without a true Awakening. I could expand on it, but this would be its own thread. In this subject, I've treated the Empty Pharaoh as a Sekhem Sorcerer which may or may not have had the backing of a mummy and probably made contact with the Abyss. Things ended up bad for everyone, as you imagine.

                Primordial newcomer I mean Ascension in a broader sense than the Awakened concept- basically, transform the world through alchemy to change the poison into enlightenment, treating the darkness as the lead which would become gold. As for the NWMNBW- the Name Who Must Not Be Written is a recurring theme in Witch Finders which relates to whatever power which gives power to witches. Whatever it actually means is unknown, but I'm going to delve more into it in the KoSG's essay for obvious reasons
                Thank you for the clarification. I'll read up on witch finders again, and I'm looking forward to the KoSG post!

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