just something that I've thought about while reading Dark Eras.
I remember that when Beast's preview was out, I've simply thought about the Otodo as a local version of the Lucifuge- the names may be different, but their powers and nature is the same. However, Fallen Blossom's preview has clearly made it look like it was not the case- or at least, not exactly (I remember Kingsraven interpretation, that the Lucifuge are "royalty" while the Otodo are "commoners"). Things got even more interesting after I finally got Hunter's Dark Eras- The Lucifuge see the Otodo as a some sort of mystery in Fallen Blossoms, while the Lucifuge are seen through European lens in Doubting Souls even from the native hunters' point of view. That made me think that perhaps, the Lucifuge are not a global phenomena- that they spread together with their blood, and that the original birth of that lineage was somewhere in Europe, perhaps during the fall of the Roman Empire and the beginning of the Dark Ages. The only way you could get further is by tying them to Judaism, at best to Lilith and Samael, or maybe even Moloch if we go all back to "Book of Judges" Era, which I'm not sure could work- the Lucifuge just don't feel that old. But I'm drifting- the point was that it all has started with one, single lineage, and as the culture in which it was birthed spread, so did they.
But what about other lineages?
There are many demons out there, after all- with the fallen angels of Christianity and the club wielding Oni are just a small part of Hell. Yet, not all such demons have given birth to earthly offspring- or if they did, those lineages has died out before organizing themselves- but others may survived. Pazuzu ruled over wind and plague, and those dark winds may have laid with women to give birth to their spawn. The Asura are addicted to their passions, and people may reborn as them if they weren't restrained in their former lives. The Daeva could be interpenetrated as psychological terrors, which sound a bit too similar to the demons from Inferno. The Yaoguai from China, the Yakseya from Sri Lanka, the Wekufe from South America- with some liberties, we could even get Egyptian and Mesoamerican lineages. While some of those lineages could survive into the modern era without a significant change- like the Indian or Chinese lineages- others may require a certain adjustment to their myths in order to find place in the world. The plague bearing children of Pazuzu, for example, may have embraced Islam and ties themselves to the court of Iblis. Mesoamerican lineage may have taken a Christian facade after loosing many of their kind for the diseases they suffered after the Spanish came to their land. On the other hand, some may have kept a low profile through the ancient times in order to survive- the children who were given to Moloch still banish demons in the Holy Land. Maat is still protected by those touched by the serpent's venom. And the best of all? Not all of them need to be descendant from Inferno! There are many demons out there, and each may spawn a different bloodline.
And what about the L'Enfant Diabolique?
Where the different families may keep to themselves, the L'Enfant may truly be a satanic conspiracy- they find 7th Generations from all around the world and breed them together. They embrace the demonspawn of any demons, of any hell. In their blood, mix the genetics of millennia of evil. They accept anyone, no matter who your parent is and from which hell you were spawned- as long as you commit to the satanic agenda. They are your family- and they want you home.
so- any thoughts about the subject?
I remember that when Beast's preview was out, I've simply thought about the Otodo as a local version of the Lucifuge- the names may be different, but their powers and nature is the same. However, Fallen Blossom's preview has clearly made it look like it was not the case- or at least, not exactly (I remember Kingsraven interpretation, that the Lucifuge are "royalty" while the Otodo are "commoners"). Things got even more interesting after I finally got Hunter's Dark Eras- The Lucifuge see the Otodo as a some sort of mystery in Fallen Blossoms, while the Lucifuge are seen through European lens in Doubting Souls even from the native hunters' point of view. That made me think that perhaps, the Lucifuge are not a global phenomena- that they spread together with their blood, and that the original birth of that lineage was somewhere in Europe, perhaps during the fall of the Roman Empire and the beginning of the Dark Ages. The only way you could get further is by tying them to Judaism, at best to Lilith and Samael, or maybe even Moloch if we go all back to "Book of Judges" Era, which I'm not sure could work- the Lucifuge just don't feel that old. But I'm drifting- the point was that it all has started with one, single lineage, and as the culture in which it was birthed spread, so did they.
But what about other lineages?
There are many demons out there, after all- with the fallen angels of Christianity and the club wielding Oni are just a small part of Hell. Yet, not all such demons have given birth to earthly offspring- or if they did, those lineages has died out before organizing themselves- but others may survived. Pazuzu ruled over wind and plague, and those dark winds may have laid with women to give birth to their spawn. The Asura are addicted to their passions, and people may reborn as them if they weren't restrained in their former lives. The Daeva could be interpenetrated as psychological terrors, which sound a bit too similar to the demons from Inferno. The Yaoguai from China, the Yakseya from Sri Lanka, the Wekufe from South America- with some liberties, we could even get Egyptian and Mesoamerican lineages. While some of those lineages could survive into the modern era without a significant change- like the Indian or Chinese lineages- others may require a certain adjustment to their myths in order to find place in the world. The plague bearing children of Pazuzu, for example, may have embraced Islam and ties themselves to the court of Iblis. Mesoamerican lineage may have taken a Christian facade after loosing many of their kind for the diseases they suffered after the Spanish came to their land. On the other hand, some may have kept a low profile through the ancient times in order to survive- the children who were given to Moloch still banish demons in the Holy Land. Maat is still protected by those touched by the serpent's venom. And the best of all? Not all of them need to be descendant from Inferno! There are many demons out there, and each may spawn a different bloodline.
And what about the L'Enfant Diabolique?
Where the different families may keep to themselves, the L'Enfant may truly be a satanic conspiracy- they find 7th Generations from all around the world and breed them together. They embrace the demonspawn of any demons, of any hell. In their blood, mix the genetics of millennia of evil. They accept anyone, no matter who your parent is and from which hell you were spawned- as long as you commit to the satanic agenda. They are your family- and they want you home.
so- any thoughts about the subject?
Also, "demony" is a relative term- anything which could be seen as antagonistic, corruptive or primordial could be described as demonic, I believe
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