'm currently running a Mage chronicle and as its my groups first time playing Awakening i'm having them rp through the acquisition of the various parts of the mage template so far they have all of their initial arcana dots, their praxes and merits that represent innate traits like mana sensitivity and destiny. I've now began introducing my players and their characters to the Orders. They've met the Arrows, Guardians and Libertines so far, two of them have joined the Arrows and one has joined the Libertines.
The next session i will be introducing the Mysterium, two of my players are 95% sure that they want their characters to join the order with the last of them torn between the Mysterium and the Ladder. Bearing in mind that half of my players are probably going to end up with these guys I wanna nail their introduction and subsequent initiation process. With that in mind I could do with a hand getting my head around the pacing between all of the elements involved in being initiated into the Order.
so these are the elements I've gathered that form the initiation into the mysterium
how much pomp/time in between a aspirant saying "I want in" and them undergoing the Mysteriorum Exemplum? would they do it then and there? make them wait? if so how long?
After the Exemplum is done the Divination is performed and shared with the initiate hope fully helping to guide them to enlightenment and the welcoming arms of the order in the form of the Arche. At what point then does the order begin investing in the initiate in the form of teaching them (the occult dot, high speech, specialties and routes) immediately after the Exemplum but before the mage has uncovered the requisite mystery? once the mage has found the mystery but before the initiate has presented it to his superiors? only after they have added to the mysterium's lore?
on a side note where do you thing the four protocols and lessons of guanxi should fit?
also could do with clarification on the timing between acquiring status dots/dots in egregor and undergoing the atlantean initiations. the order book makes it clear that to increase status within the order you must advance further in the Atlantean Mystery, which is represented by in part in game by the Egregor merit (which is really just mystery initiation 2.0), but Egregor has the prerequisite of Order Status (but no longer status commensurate to the level of Egregore???) so my thinking is you must experience the Atlantean Initiation to get the next order status dot, but you can only by Egregore afterwards which is you then internalising the truths and secrets revealed in the Initiation (and gaining funky new abilities). after you've bought said dot of egregore you can pursue the mysteries which will indicate your readiness for the next initiation?
should having the right level of Egregore be a prerequisite for increasing status mechanically or can you go through the atlantean Initiations never really "getting it" but improving in status anyway
sorry for this being really disjointed
*edited to attempt to improve clarity, suspect failure
The next session i will be introducing the Mysterium, two of my players are 95% sure that they want their characters to join the order with the last of them torn between the Mysterium and the Ladder. Bearing in mind that half of my players are probably going to end up with these guys I wanna nail their introduction and subsequent initiation process. With that in mind I could do with a hand getting my head around the pacing between all of the elements involved in being initiated into the Order.
so these are the elements I've gathered that form the initiation into the mysterium
- expresses desire to join the order
- initiate taught order basics (knowladge is power/has a price/must be preserved)
- initiate experiences the Mysteriorum Exemplum
- theonom/senior mystagogue performs divination to see what is required for first degree of initiation into the atlantean mystery
- initiate taught deeper meaning behind the orders philosophy
- initiate discovers mystery and adds it to the caucus' lore as part of the atheneum
- gains dot of occult
- gains high speech merit
- learns rote specialities
- learns three rotes
- initiate experiences The Mysteriorum Arche
- gains first dot of order status
- theonom/senior mystagogue performs divination to see what is required for second degree of initiation into the atlantean mystery
how much pomp/time in between a aspirant saying "I want in" and them undergoing the Mysteriorum Exemplum? would they do it then and there? make them wait? if so how long?
After the Exemplum is done the Divination is performed and shared with the initiate hope fully helping to guide them to enlightenment and the welcoming arms of the order in the form of the Arche. At what point then does the order begin investing in the initiate in the form of teaching them (the occult dot, high speech, specialties and routes) immediately after the Exemplum but before the mage has uncovered the requisite mystery? once the mage has found the mystery but before the initiate has presented it to his superiors? only after they have added to the mysterium's lore?
on a side note where do you thing the four protocols and lessons of guanxi should fit?
also could do with clarification on the timing between acquiring status dots/dots in egregor and undergoing the atlantean initiations. the order book makes it clear that to increase status within the order you must advance further in the Atlantean Mystery, which is represented by in part in game by the Egregor merit (which is really just mystery initiation 2.0), but Egregor has the prerequisite of Order Status (but no longer status commensurate to the level of Egregore???) so my thinking is you must experience the Atlantean Initiation to get the next order status dot, but you can only by Egregore afterwards which is you then internalising the truths and secrets revealed in the Initiation (and gaining funky new abilities). after you've bought said dot of egregore you can pursue the mysteries which will indicate your readiness for the next initiation?
should having the right level of Egregore be a prerequisite for increasing status mechanically or can you go through the atlantean Initiations never really "getting it" but improving in status anyway
sorry for this being really disjointed
*edited to attempt to improve clarity, suspect failure
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