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Are there any resources, 1e or 2e, that denote the commonality of sleepwalkers? Specifically those that are not a supernatural splat or possessing some other internal supernatural ability.
Recently got into a discussion with some other STs about this and it seems pretty divided into thinking that people who are just sleepwalkers with nothing else going on are more rare than say vampires or werewolves, whereas on my side I would think sleepwalkers would be more common than any splat by sheer virtue that mortals are just so much more numerous and there is at least some evidence that mortals exposed to supernal(or abyssal) magic can experience a fitful slumber and become a sleepwalker
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Originally posted by Lord Jub-Jub View PostAre there any resources, 1e or 2e, that denote the commonality of sleepwalkers? Specifically those that are not a supernatural splat or possessing some other internal supernatural ability.
Recently got into a discussion with some other STs about this and it seems pretty divided into thinking that people who are just sleepwalkers with nothing else going on are more rare than say vampires or werewolves, whereas on my side I would think sleepwalkers would be more common than any splat by sheer virtue that mortals are just so much more numerous and there is at least some evidence that mortals exposed to supernal(or abyssal) magic can experience a fitful slumber and become a sleepwalker
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Is this thread open for any questions? The original post for this thread does not say what this thread is for.
Scouring your pattern. Are there any long term consequences for repeatedly scouring your pattern for mana? For instance, maybe you scour your stamina or health day after day. Would there be any consequences for doing this in the long run?
Can you learn or develop your own Mudras? I know that your order teaches you their mudras, their rote specialties. These bestow an additional die, above and beyond the skill used for the rote. However, the orders forbid teaching them to those outside their order. Despite this, I would like to be able to learn more mudras or even develop them. I think this would be especially important if you wanted to form your own order or something. Did I mention the extra die?
Life 4 - Regeneration. Can I make this effect lasting? From what I understand, I could make the spellpermanentindefinite (with 2 reaches and a point of mana), but that leaves it open to being dispelled or be detected with mage sight.
Can you learn a praxis or rote for mage sight? I want to be able to use mage sight for common and inferior arcanum without spending mana.Last edited by DivineWrath; 02-07-2020, 06:17 PM.
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Originally posted by DivineWrath View PostCan you learn or develop your own Mudras? I know that your order teaches you their mudras, their rote specialties. These bestow an additional die, above and beyond the skill used for the rote. However, the orders forbid teaching them to those outside their order. Despite this, I would like to be able to learn more mudras or even develop them. I think this would be especially important if you wanted to form your own order or something. Did I mention the extra die?
When in an Order you gain a +1 bonus on Mudras that use one of the Order Rote Skills. The reason each Order has those specific Rote Skills is because of how magic is taught within that Order. You can't just simply learn additional Order Rote Skills. It's not a huge loss since it's a +1 bonus that you might not even get if you've reached 5+ dots in the Skill already.
Originally posted by DivineWrath View PostLife 4 - Regeneration. Can I make this effect lasting? From what I understand, I could make the spell permanent (with 2 reaches and a point of mana), but that leaves it open to being dispelled or be detected with mage sight.
Originally posted by DivineWrath View PostCan you learn a praxis or rote for mage sight? I want to be able to use mage sight for common and inferior arcanum without spending mana.
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Originally posted by DivineWrath View PostIs this thread open for any questions? The original post for this thread does not say what this thread is for.
Scouring your pattern. Are there any long term consequences for repeatedly scouring your pattern for mana? For instance, maybe you scour your stamina or health day after day. Would there be any consequences for doing this in the long run?
Can you learn or develop your own Mudras? I know that your order teaches you their mudras, their rote specialties. These bestow an additional die, above and beyond the skill used for the rote. However, the orders forbid teaching them to those outside their order. Despite this, I would like to be able to learn more mudras or even develop them. I think this would be especially important if you wanted to form your own order or something. Did I mention the extra die?
Life 4 - Regeneration. Can I make this effect lasting? From what I understand, I could make the spell permanent (with 2 reaches and a point of mana), but that leaves it open to being dispelled or be detected with mage sight.
Can you learn a praxis or rote for mage sight? I want to be able to use mage sight for common and inferior arcanum without spending mana.
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Originally posted by DivineWrath View PostLife 4 - Regeneration. Can I make this effect lasting? From what I understand, I could make the spell permanent (with 2 reaches and a point of mana), but that leaves it open to being dispelled or be detected with mage sight.
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Originally posted by totalgit View PostTry not to use the term permanent for indefinite and relinquished too, it looks like you already know they can be dispelled and/or eroded eventually but it still the wrong term and can confuse new people.
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So this is a doozy and I'm surprised it has not come up before:
The spell stacking rules state "When multiple spells affect the same aspect of a character the effects of the spells do not stack, and instead the spell with the highest Potency takes effect.
The "aspect of a character" part also now has me wondering if the spell stacking rules do not apply to things that are not a character, ie items. Surely it would have been worded as "aspect of something/anything/everything" if it were to apply across the board to characters and items?Last edited by totalgit; 02-07-2020, 07:38 PM.
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Originally posted by totalgit View PostSo this is a doozy and I'm surprised it has not come up before:
The spell stacking rules state "
Now the question is if a character had a "Honing the form spell" with potency 3 giving +3 to strength on them and somebody else casts a "Degrading the form" also on strength spell with a potency of 2 to give -2 strength. (both spells have a week duration) Will the degrading spell be suppressed due to the spell stacking rules because both spells affect the same aspect of the character. IE Strength. The fact that one is a positive modifier and one is a negative modifier is not mentioned as mattering for the purpose of the spell stacking rule. So then the "degrading" spell is suppressed by the "honing" spell. Others seem to think this is a dumb idea and that the positive and negative modifiers are different or that they both work at the same time so you would end up with a +1 strength net. Is my reading of the spell stacking rules completely wrong or am I just a subject of gaslighting?
The "aspect of a character" part also now has me wondering if the spell stacking rules do not apply to things that are not a character, ie items. Surely it would have been worded as "aspect of something/anything/everything" if it were to apply across the board to characters and items?
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Originally posted by DivineWrath View Post
I would say they're not the same effects, they're opposite effects. You combine them and then keep the difference. So in your example, a +3 mod added to a -2 mod would be +1 mod.Last edited by totalgit; 02-07-2020, 11:44 PM.
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The only thing I have to work with is that one paragraph you quoted. And the last sentence for combined spells (I found it while doing a pdf search for "spell stacking"). The book does not mention spell stacking anywhere else (except when it tries to point you to where it is). So I don't think we're going to able to solve this problem by looking at the book.
Core Rulebook, p. 119
Spell stacking still applies if the
constituent spells affect the same thing.Last edited by DivineWrath; 02-08-2020, 12:35 AM.
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Well, no answer to the long term effects of scouring your pattern for mana daily.
A follow up for mage sight.
Is there anyway of knowing what kind of mage sight you need to be using? I don't want to be flipping through a bunch of different mage sights, wasting mana in the process, in order to study whatever phenomena your peripheral mage sight alerts you to.
Does peripheral mage sight have the same range as active mage sight? Could it detect something happening in a building on the other side of the street? Would the said building block my active mage sight?
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Originally posted by DivineWrath View PostWell, no answer to the long term effects of scouring your pattern for mana daily.
Is there anyway of knowing what kind of mage sight you need to be using? I don't want to be flipping through a bunch of different mage sights, wasting mana in the process, in order to study whatever phenomena your peripheral mage sight alerts you to.
Does peripheral mage sight have the same range as active mage sight?
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