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[Suleri Drals]

I reopen the thread : (Original author : Archmage Joda)

To restart :

Q1 : Camelot was created by Imperium Rite or Practice ?

[Neos01]

How does Peripheral Mage Sight interact with demons' subtler powers, particularly Embeds and stuff like Legend?

Legend would probably be under Cover concealment, but embeds are active use of a power so i think they are detectable

[ajf115]

How does Peripheral Mage Sight interact with demons' subtler powers, particularly Embeds and stuff like Legend?

[EW-Matias]

I agree with that.
But i don t understand the in game reason for why healing willpower should be more difficult than healing health levels.

Mostly a balance call. Your ways of replenishing Willpower are usually limited and require dramatic actions or developments, or many days without spending more. Healing bashing damage is trivial and even a few lethal may not bother you at all before healing naturally.

[Neos01]

The base effect is Perfecting because it can be accomplished with a Perfecting spell. Patterning would allow you to restore multiple Willpower at once by altering the state of the Mind to a different state (i.e. without willpower to with).

I agree with that.
But i don t understand the in game reason for why healing willpower should be more difficult than healing health levels.

[proindrakenzol]

I should have clarified that the question was actually “Is the base effect of restoring willpower patterning or perfecting” rather than adding in my observations of looking at effects, so that’s on me.

The base effect is Perfecting because it can be accomplished with a Perfecting spell. Patterning would allow you to restore multiple Willpower at once by altering the state of the Mind to a different state (i.e. without willpower to with).

[Lord Jub-Jub]

Remember that you can create an healing effect that repeat itself every ritual interval if you set a sufficiently long duration.
Clear mind could restore a lot of willpower in a few hours

I should have clarified that the question was actually “Is the base effect of restoring willpower patterning or perfecting” rather than adding in my observations of looking at effects, so that’s on me.

[Neos01]

Another, hopefully easier to answer question

I was looking at some improvised spells I could do now that I’m at Mind 3, and me and my group have run into a disagreement on what practice something counts as

I was looking at clear mind as a reference example, and noticed it had the effect of restoring willpower, and I was discussing using it as a way to recharge the willpower batteries. Another player brought up I should be able to cast a spell to just restore willpower itself at Mind 3

I looked into it though, looking at other examples, already knowing that inflicting bashing is usually a disciple effect while you have to wait till 4 to inflict lethal. Then there are spells like knit, which restore bashing and with a reach effect can restore lethal, then at life 4, mend life simply restores the lethal itself

This suggests to me, when taking into account clear mind only restores 1 willpower with a reach effect, that it should actually be a patterning Mind 4 spell to simply restore willpower

However the other player argues that restoring willpower shouldn’t be as hard as healing lethal damage, so it should be able to be cast at Mind 3 as a perfecting effect

Remember that you can create an healing effect that repeat itself every ritual interval if you set a sufficiently long duration.
Clear mind could restore a lot of willpower in a few hours

[Satchel]

However the other player argues that restoring willpower shouldn’t be as hard as healing lethal damage, so it should be able to be cast at Mind 3 as a perfecting effect

The fact that restoring Willpower normally requires effort to get more than once a day and has a lower lower limit than Health suggests it's probably better placed at Mind 4 to restore it in quantity than at the same level of Arcanum mastery as "heal damage that normally heals four points an hour."

[Lord Jub-Jub]

Another, hopefully easier to answer question

I was looking at some improvised spells I could do now that I’m at Mind 3, and me and my group have run into a disagreement on what practice something counts as

I was looking at clear mind as a reference example, and noticed it had the effect of restoring willpower, and I was discussing using it as a way to recharge the willpower batteries. Another player brought up I should be able to cast a spell to just restore willpower itself at Mind 3

I looked into it though, looking at other examples, already knowing that inflicting bashing is usually a disciple effect while you have to wait till 4 to inflict lethal. Then there are spells like knit, which restore bashing and with a reach effect can restore lethal, then at life 4, mend life simply restores the lethal itself

This suggests to me, when taking into account clear mind only restores 1 willpower with a reach effect, that it should actually be a patterning Mind 4 spell to simply restore willpower

However the other player argues that restoring willpower shouldn’t be as hard as healing lethal damage, so it should be able to be cast at Mind 3 as a perfecting effect

[Graylion]

You are treated as a time traveler having just arrived at the Present, so you would remember alterations.

That was a very solid and clear answer, well said.

[Mrmdubois]

I'm assuming it's successful. To clarify, if Constant Presence keeps your present state immune to changes in history, will that mean that the past you remember will be one no one else does? For instance if you are at a party and a fight breaks out and people get killed. Another Mage goes back in time and prevents the fight from ever happening. Do things all of the sudden rearrange around you and you have no idea what happened because the past you lived through was different? Or do you remember both versions of the event?

You are treated as a time traveler having just arrived at the Present, so you would remember alterations.

[Therian]

That depends on who wins the CoW.

I'm assuming it's successful. To clarify, if Constant Presence keeps your present state immune to changes in history, will that mean that the past you remember will be one no one else does? For instance if you are at a party and a fight breaks out and people get killed. Another Mage goes back in time and prevents the fight from ever happening. Do things all of the sudden rearrange around you and you have no idea what happened because the past you lived through was different? Or do you remember both versions of the event?

[Mrmdubois]

If you have Constant Presence cast on you and someone Shifting Sands back and changes things, would you remember what happened in the new timeline as well the old one?

That depends on who wins the CoW.

[Therian]

If you have Constant Presence cast on you and someone Shifting Sands back and changes things, would you remember what happened in the new timeline as well the old one?