Hello all, I had an idea whilst pondering the nature of the Supernal. Ascend beings are themselves supernal symbols. As such, they are eternal and uneditable like all supernal symbols through any process save imperial rights or an ascension (in which case an ascending being can become a perturbation of an existing symbol). In this context, ascended beings have no agency. They cannot affect reality, they are reality. This is why the Exarchs need the seers, because seer archmages can perform imperium rights to edit the exarchs as they want. Also, with their ascension, they become part of them creating a new facet on their supernal symbols. All the ascended seers make up the new details of them like a digit of pi is a part of the whole.
Ascended beings can send ochema to the fallen, but ochema cannot perform imperium rights, nor ascend. Thus they cannot change the supernal.
A wise archmage could realize this and actually avoid ascending to retain their near-godhood and their autonomy (sort of a best of both worlds).
Ascended beings can send ochema to the fallen, but ochema cannot perform imperium rights, nor ascend. Thus they cannot change the supernal.
A wise archmage could realize this and actually avoid ascending to retain their near-godhood and their autonomy (sort of a best of both worlds).
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