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  • 2e Ordo Dracul Titles

    I always found the Ordo Dracul Covenant book to be my favorite, and one of the little details I liked is that, given just how damn many ranks, decorations, and titles they have, they realize it's entirely possible to use them as ciphers that the other Covenants don't realize aren't them being completely ostentatious.

    Of course, that has the problem of the rank system being largely based on progress in the Coils...and Coils are structured quite differently in Blood and Smoke, namely the Scales.

    So, how do you think the local Philosopher should be referred as to (apart from, uh, "sir").



  • #2
    I think the old titles still largely work, since there are still three main Coils rated 1-5. I would just substitute Voivode for Blood, Wyrm for Beast, and Ascendant for Banes.


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    • #3
      Originally posted by Charlaquin View Post
      I think the old titles still largely work, since there are still three main Coils rated 1-5. I would just substitute Voivode for Blood, Wyrm for Beast, and Ascendant for Banes.

      True, it's just that I don't think the Ordo are going to let people forget they know Scales too. So I was wondering how they'd figure into the system.


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      • #4
        Originally posted by Leliel View Post
        True, it's just that I don't think the Ordo are going to let people forget they know Scales too. So I was wondering how they'd figure into the system.
        I don't know, they never had titles to indicate that they knew blood alchemy in 1e, or that they had specific Merits. I kind of see the Scales as more like that. Coils are the paths to transcendence, scales are just different ways to utilize the power of the Coils.


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        • #5
          Originally posted by Charlaquin View Post
          I don't know, they never had titles to indicate that they knew blood alchemy in 1e, or that they had specific Merits. I kind of see the Scales as more like that. Coils are the paths to transcendence, scales are just different ways to utilize the power of the Coils.

          Okay, true.

          I can, however, see one who knows the Blood Cleansing Ritual as being given a title to symbolize her being sort of a Sworn of the Mysteries internal investigator. And assistant to elders to prevent accidental Viniculum from palate.


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          • #6
            Originally posted by Leliel View Post

            Okay, true.

            I can, however, see one who knows the Blood Cleansing Ritual as being given a title to symbolize her being sort of a Sworn of the Mysteries internal investigator. And assistant to elders to prevent accidental Viniculum from palate.
            That's true. Plus it would just be cool. I've mostly stuck with the 1e titles cause it's easy.


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            • #7
              In the ghouls section of Vampire 2nd, one of the in-character pieces is signed by someone who uses the title "Illuminus of Carnal Terror", which seems to indicate that system is still in place (unless it's an oversight).



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              • #8
                Our group has adopted this system where there is a specific title for powers to nullify vinculum, such as Blood Cleansing Ritual:
                http://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/m...-dracul-titles

                While Tested Illuminus of Royal Terror (taken from an old character sheet and not updated to reflect my character's advances) is a pretty cool title, it is nothing compared to:
                The Sovereign Fiend, Samuel Bishop, Master of Dying Light, Emissary of Enlightened Fury and Grieving Prometheus of Cursed Olympus
                Ordo Dracul is definitely the Covenant for longer games so you can compile titles that almost requires a pause for breathing.


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                • #9
                  I honestly thought that the titles of the Ordo Dracul were pretentious and annoying, but that's just my opinion.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Shawarbaaz View Post
                    I honestly thought that the titles of the Ordo Dracul were pretentious and annoying, but that's just my opinion.

                    I thought the pretension kind of is what sold them to me-specifically, the fact that (a) you explicitly can, and people have, cheated on the Title examinations, and (b) the fact that they're so complex and flowery the Dragons use them as a cipher, because who else is going to know what they fuck they mean?

                    It's that kind of self-aware snobbishness and rigid adherence to the letter of protocol while openly searching for loopholes that really sold the Defiant as a bunch of academics with fangs, geomancy, and flamethrowers, imo.


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                    • #11
                      "Noble Lumpkin? This here's the Illustrious Potentate."

                      My player (or at least her character) thinks the robes and names are ridiculous. But I rather like the idea. It is officious, but for those who take such things seriously it would be important. And after all, when you have academics who theoretically live forever, you need some kind of status markers. It's not like the Invictus don't have their share; they're just more transparent.

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