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    In some big city, is not weird to have more than one vampire at BP 6 or higher.
    How can such vampires feed to sustain themself? How can they deal with the vinculum if they leave the "food" alive?

    I'd like to collect a list of suggestion and ideas about this particular subject.

  • #2
    Options:
    Get some vampires that can't cause a Vinculum (it is the weakness of a few bloodlines)
    Develop the ability to feed from other supernaturals (if available)
    Deal with a Vinculum (maybe you bind them first with your own)
    Use Blood Sorcery or Oaths to get Vitae indirectly.
    Drink from lesser sources and burn Willpower to convert to Vitae


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    • #3
      Get the Touch of Deprivation devotion, use it on yourself to temporarily nullify your sense of taste. Feed.

      Put yourself under vinculum to someone in torpor or lives far away or is nomadic. You can feed off whoever else you want.

      Use the Cruac rituals or Invictus oaths that let you leech off someone else's vitae consumption.

      Choose a cliche mask and dirge to farm willpower and continue to feed off humans as needed.

      Mix and match these combos.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by tsusasi View Post
        Get the Touch of Deprivation devotion, use it on yourself to temporarily nullify your sense of taste. Feed.

        Put yourself under vinculum to someone in torpor or lives far away or is nomadic. You can feed off whoever else you want.

        Use the Cruac rituals or Invictus oaths that let you leech off someone else's vitae consumption.

        Choose a cliche mask and dirge to farm willpower and continue to feed off humans as needed.

        Mix and match these combos.
        Can a Vampire be vinculated to only one vampire at time? I didn't know this...

        Why should the sense of taste be the reason of a vinculum? Isn't it a mistical effect due to ingestion ov vampiric vitae?

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        • #5
          Stage 3 Vinculum prevents any further blood bonds to other vampires and breaks existing ones.

          You can have infinite level 1 or 2 blood bonds so long as you don't have a level 3. If you have a level 3 bond, you can't have any other bonds. This is only one way though. You can have as many people with level 3 bonds to you as you can manage. You can just only have one level 3 bond to someone else.

          Bonds also wear off if you don't feed from the person again for roughly a year, so I guess you could just have a lot of level 1 bonds and just be careful not to feed from the same vampire more than once a year. Level 1 isn't so serious, and a lot of Elder vampires aren't terribly active and so don't need as much blood as younger vampires. Since the question seems directed at NPCs, a lot of Elders probably don't burn much more Vitae than one a day for waking up.

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          • #6
            Thank you all.
            Yes it was directed at NPCs.

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            • #7
              There is a Cruac rite that temporarily prevents Vinculum, and one of the Ordo's Mysteries centers around manipulating it. The Invictus have the Oath of Penance. Carthians have a law merit in the new supplement that can break a Vinc. A BP6+ vampire in any of these covenants would likely acquire the necessary abilities to circumvent blood bonds.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Marcus View Post

                Can a Vampire be vinculated to only one vampire at time? I didn't know this...
                What Maina said. You can only be fully bound to one other person at a time but have as many as you can manage bonded to you..

                << Why should the sense of taste be the reason of a vinculum? Isn't it a mistical effect due to ingestion ov vampiric vitae? >>

                The vinculum is established when one tastes vitae. If you have no sense of taste, you can't be affected.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tsusasi View Post
                  The vinculum is established when one tastes vitae. If you have no sense of taste, you can't be affected.
                  Another thing I didn't know. Thank' s a lot

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Marcus View Post

                    Another thing I didn't know. Thank' s a lot

                    Well becouse its not accurate. If you get vitae into your body, you get bloodbound. Even from a syringe with vitae or some spit in the eye.

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                    • #11
                      The different Covenants have different methods to deal with this. The ordo have specific Scales (fun fact Ordo can feed on a mortal they've infused with their own Vitae as if all the mortal's blood was Vitae.), Invictus have Fealty and Serfdom Oaths.

                      Of course there are "outside the box" strategies like embracing a coma patient you're okay loving, protecting, and feeding mortal blood, a "sleeping beauty" blood-wife/husband so to speak.
                      Last edited by Pale_Crusader; 02-18-2017, 06:49 PM.


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tsusasi View Post

                        The vinculum is established when one tastes vitae. If you have no sense of taste, you can't be affected.
                        Umm... "taste Vitae" probably meant "eat, drink, or otherwise ingest Vitae", not "fully be aware of the particular sensory stimulation held by Vitae." Natural language, and all that.


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                        • #13
                          Surviving at high BP is a challenge and it's meant to be a challenge. It requires, at best, powerful sorceries to steal vitae or have it offered to you by willing supplicants, or at worst, get yourself blood bound to some neonate or another Elder.

                          If you're not prepared for the long night, or unwilling to make sacrifices, then you've got to take a dirt nap for a few decades. This is why all Elders tend to be strong and dangerous. They had to be.

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                          • #14
                            There's always the option of using a reverent.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 21C Hermit View Post

                              Umm... "taste Vitae" probably meant "eat, drink, or otherwise ingest Vitae", not "fully be aware of the particular sensory stimulation held by Vitae." Natural language, and all that.
                              What you call "natural language" and say that's not the intent, I call unintended consequences of a power YOU didn't even consider yourself regarding application of the Touch of Deprivation power when or if you actually read it in the first place.

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