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  • Are Strix playable?

    Are Strix playable considering that they're able to survive in sunlight unlike Kindred do or rather your closest 19th century literary vampire you can get?

  • #2
    Technically, the rules are there for you to do it. Practically, the rules are not designed to expect you to do this and don't make accommodations for it. Strix banes are stricter and less player-friendly than Kindred banes, incapacitating them more easily or complicating commonplace, everyday situations. They're stated not to earn beats or experiences, and even if you ignore this, they have no advancement rules for acquiring new trait dots with them, with Skill dots being stolen from hosts, Dread Power and Attribute growth tied to Shadow Potency, and Shadow Potency in turn solely increasing through centuries of age or diablerie.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Stupid Loserman View Post
      Technically, the rules are there for you to do it. Practically, the rules are not designed to expect you to do this and don't make accommodations for it. Strix banes are stricter and less player-friendly than Kindred banes, incapacitating them more easily or complicating commonplace, everyday situations. They're stated not to earn beats or experiences, and even if you ignore this, they have no advancement rules for acquiring new trait dots with them, with Skill dots being stolen from hosts, Dread Power and Attribute growth tied to Shadow Potency, and Shadow Potency in turn solely increasing through centuries of age or diablerie.
      So the answer is pretty much no.

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      • #4
        Pretty much.

        While nothing is stopping you from forging ahead and making them playable, by RAW they were designed to be ST-only antagonists.

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        • #5
          That said, as long as everyone at the table agrees, that sounds like a fascinating Short Story. A Flock of Strix causing what mayhem they can and trying to out maneuver what would usually be the PCs but are this time ST chars. It sounds fascinating enough for a limited game.



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          • #6
            Yeah, as written it's not impossible, but they're not built to accommodate the idea. That being said, I can imagine a scenario where you use basic vampire rules and just toss out Humanity, or replace it with something more alien. Make it more like Demon: The Fallen, where possessing an individual forces a strix to fall under certain limitations.



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            • #7
              Here's a fun idea!

              Play as Strix-possessed vampires, where you play as a vampire possessed by a Strix. Then, after one or two chapters of Strix shenanigans, the Striges leave their host bodies (your characters) and then you get to play 'Dude Where's My Car?' as your actual vampire characters!

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              • #8
                Heres a question?!

                Can strix be bound?

                one of their most common powers defens from mind affecting Disciplines.


                But binding them and sending them out sounds cool.

                As long as you know what your doing if you just think you know, your a goner.


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                • #9
                  One of the key elements of the strix is their chaos factor and wiliness, so having them bound by commands would eliminate a lot of their effectiveness.

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                  • #10
                    as xiongrey said, a short story as the strix could be cool, like a create your own conflict (for when you go back to vampire)

                    otherwise not practical to play as

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                    • #11
                      Bind how? Generally speaking you can most certainly bind them as long as they don't have specific defences against your method of binding them. The difficulty (other than their commonly occurring immunity to mind affecting Disciplines) comes in you not knowing who to bind until it's too late.


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                      • #12
                        say with Cruac?

                        Summoning and sending them off.


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ventrue Life View Post
                          Here's a fun idea!

                          Play as Strix-possessed vampires, where you play as a vampire possessed by a Strix. Then, after one or two chapters of Strix shenanigans, the Striges leave their host bodies (your characters) and then you get to play 'Dude Where's My Car?' as your actual vampire characters!

                          As much as this sounds fun--especially the part where you spend an arc trying to figure out what the hell went wrong with your requiem, another more linear way to play it would be for a flock of stirges to engage in some synthesis with hapless mortals.

                          They come out the other side as something much less than human and much more than pure Strix. Ditch Humanity for example, but keep the mechanics of vampire advancement and maybe let them play dread powers. The issue the Strix would have is that stupid human voice that keeps whining about doing "mean things" like flaying people alive to get at the juicy bits, and asking them to play nice with people who seem to think they should know the host....

                          (Edit: you could look at this as a "reverse Beast", even.)

                          --Khanwulf

                          PS Edit: why a flock of stirges would want to do this is something that the group could attempt to answer themselves, especially as the process of synthesis is... jarring to strix memories and motivations. It's basically a "here hold my beer" moment for them.
                          Last edited by Khanwulf; 01-31-2019, 12:50 PM.

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                          • #14
                            If you have a ritual for it, sure. But I would be extremely suspicious about such rituals in case they're invented by Strix to lure the ritualist into a false sense of security. It might actually only summon Strix without binding them, or the binding is more literal than expected and the Strix is actually only bound to be in proximity to the ritualist rather than bound to follow the ritualist's orders.


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                            • #15
                              I could see some inventive bastard coming up with the idea of diablorizing a strix, and possibly inviting his coterie into the ritualistic act. I mean--it's ok, right, because the strix isn't a Kindred and rules don't apply, right?

                              Nothing could possibly go wrong I'm sure, and you totally wouldn't get some weird shadow-and-ash malevolence replacing what was, with new perspective, your mundane and somewhat tepid, beast....

                              No sirree.

                              --Khanwulf

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