Twice-Cursed Variants

[Penelope]

Why indeed.

The Moroi connection is mostly just speculation (it's as true as you want it to be), but it served the purpose of A) making the Moroi canon in Second Edition, and B) putting lie to that silly sidebar in Ordo Dracul insisting that they're not really the same bloodline, just two bloodlines that are exactly the same in every single way imaginable.

That makes sense. Thanks.

[Baaldam]

Why indeed.

The Moroi connection is mostly just speculation (it's as true as you want it to be), but it served the purpose of A) making the Moroi canon in Second Edition, and B) putting lie to that silly sidebar in Ordo Dracul insisting that they're not really the same bloodline, just two bloodlines that are exactly the same in every single way imaginable.

Who nows, the supernatural world is a messy one, it could go either way, or both even.

[Penelope]

Yossarian random question

Is there any relationship in your headcanon between the Moroi from Ordo Dracul and the Moroi from the Vampire Academy novels? The characters and the setting are very different but it just hit me that the names are identical.

[Baaldam]

Yossarian random question

Is there any relationship in your headcanon between the Moroi from Ordo Dracul and the Moroi from the Vampire Academy novels? The characters and the setting are very different but it just hit me that the names are identical.

Well, they both took the name from eastern european folklore, i'd guess. No mystery there.

[Penelope]

Got it. Thanks. I didn’t know if the name was made up or not.

[Yossarian]

Yossarian random question

Is there any relationship in your headcanon between the Moroi from Ordo Dracul and the Moroi from the Vampire Academy novels? The characters and the setting are very different but it just hit me that the names are identical.

Baaldam has the right of it. I haven't read any Vampire Academy, and the Ordo Dracul book they first appeared in predates those novels. I'm not really sure what you're asking, but I think my answer is no.

[Penelope]

I was asking if the writers of Ordo Dracul named that bloodline after the Moroi from Vampire Academy. Thanks 😊. You answered my question.

Sorry. I wasn’t sure about the dates.

[Yossarian]

I was asking if the writers of Ordo Dracul named that bloodline after the Moroi from Vampire Academy. Thanks 😊. You answered my question.

Sorry. I wasn’t sure about the dates.

Glad to help!

[PJ123]

I like it, a lot. See no problem with the Discipline spread overlap if you do Mekhet/Nosferatu and Daeva/Mekhet. Especially because to an outsider, they might all seem like one type. Then, upon investigation, it's found out they are different... And this freaks the Kindred out. Are they proto-Clans, or are the Clans becoming something else?

[PJ123]

My apologies Yossarian, couldn't wait. Though need some help finishing them up. Something occurred to me regarding the ones with Celerity, Obfuscate, Vigor: they're made up of three of the (arguably) oldest Clans. Could tie in with the whole what vampire’s were before they became Clans.

Daeva/Mekhet: The xxx
Xxx gain Dream Visions and Kiss of the Succubus for free at character creation.
Xxx can only Embrace humans with…
Clan Bane (the Wayward Curse): xxx gain both the Daeva and Mekhet and banes at Humanity 6.

Favored Attributes: Manipulation and Wits

Disciplines: Celerity, Obfuscate, Vigor

Mekhet/Nosferatu: The Ominous
Ominous gain Dream Visions and Unsettling Gaze for free at character creation.
Ominous can only Embrace humans that have died.
Clan Bane (the Inhuman Curse): Ominous gain both the Mekhet and Nosferatu banes at Humanity 6.

Favored Attributes: Intelligence and Strength

Disciplines: Celerity, Obfuscate, Vigor

[Yossarian]

My apologies Yossarian, couldn't wait. Though need some help finishing them up. Something occurred to me regarding the ones with Celerity, Obfuscate, Vigor: they're made up of three of the (arguably) oldest Clans. Could tie in with the whole what vampire’s were before they became Clans.

Daeva/Mekhet: The xxx
Xxx gain Dream Visions and Kiss of the Succubus for free at character creation.
Xxx can only Embrace humans with…
Clan Bane (the Wayward Curse): xxx gain both the Daeva and Mekhet and banes at Humanity 6.

Favored Attributes: Manipulation and Wits

Disciplines: Celerity, Obfuscate, Vigor

Mekhet/Nosferatu: The Ominous
Ominous gain Dream Visions and Unsettling Gaze for free at character creation.
Ominous can only Embrace humans that have died.
Clan Bane (the Inhuman Curse): Ominous gain both the Mekhet and Nosferatu banes at Humanity 6.

Favored Attributes: Intelligence and Strength

Disciplines: Celerity, Obfuscate, Vigor

These are both really cool. For the Daevkhet, the archetype is maybe like a love story involving ghosts. The suave, dead Don Juan, who comes to you in your dreams but also can't cross salt lines. Not sure how to crystallize that into a single word. Maybe they can only Embrace people who are a ghost's anchor?

[PJ123]

Thanks, but you (and thesaurus 😁) did most work. I just had to figure out which two favored attributes (interestingly enough, by adding in these two Twice-Cursed, each of the favored attributes gets used twice).

What about the Obsessed? Only being able to embrace Anchors sounds cool. Their Dream Visions lead them to a mortal, their Daeva curse takes over, so they drain and Embrace.

[Yossarian]

Thanks, but you (and thesaurus 😁) did most work. I just had to figure out which two favored attributes (interestingly enough, by adding in these two Twice-Cursed, each of the favored attributes gets used twice).

What about the Obsessed? Only being able to embrace Anchors sounds cool. Their Dream Visions lead them to a mortal, their Daeva curse takes over, so they drain and Embrace.

Obsessed is excellent! And yeah, that "man of your dreams turns out to be dead" trope is definitely how I'd do them.