Tell me about your Nameless

[LostLight]

Seriously, the Nameless is one of the coolest things in B&S in my opinion (I mean, he feels like Requiem version of the Emissary of Nexus from Exalted) and after I've made thousands of theories about VII and the strixs, now my brain can't stop thinking about what the Nameless could be.. Because of his aesthetics (shadowy figure with glowing eyes) and his seemingly dislike toward Lancea et Sanctum, I think it is connected to the strixs somehow- so here are few theories my mind made up for him:

a) an evolved strix. When strixs lives long enough and manage not to split itself, it start absorbing other strixs until it turns into an human like form.

b) The Nameless is to the Man what the strixs are to the Beast, hence his control over Theban Sorcery. He is also just the first one- and there are others in the way.

c) Remember that it was said that if a strix use Synthesis over a supernatural being, weird things happen? This is what happen when it use it on a demon. It stopped the Theban Sorcery for seeing it as part of the God Machine's influence, and limits the number of kindred to 4 because for demons 4 is really a magical number.

so, what about your theories?

[Troller]

c) Remember that it was said that if a strix use Synthesis over a supernatural being, weird things happen? This is what happen when it use it on a demon. It stopped the Theban Sorcery for seeing it as part of the God Machine's influence, and limits the number of kindred to 4 because for demons 4 is really a magical number.

so, what about your theories?

This thought came to mind when I read it as well. I didn't go demon though, like Bloody Mary (which I intend to use in such a fashion) from Danse Macabre I felt it had a feel of True Fae/Strix (well I didn't think Strix then like I do now). I hope as other updated core books come down the line that the lines blur some more so that the world feels organically together. Nothing blunt, just hints of possibilities that can be picked up.

[BlackRajanya]

I didnt see the nameless in the book, yet, but it sounds like a Shadow Person.

[AGS]

It's some kind of existing boogey man in the short description of Montreal. "It" is responsible for the Kindred not playing "the Grand Game". It is blamed for the death of two dozen Kindred in a single event in 1970, preventing a "hostile political takeover". It set up rules that all Kindred follow since then...
Sounds like great story potential!

[Murder-of-Crows]

Thread necromancy: I don't know if this has been brought up before: Tsihstekeri, the Ventrue line in the city, means "owl" in Mohawk.

[That Other Guy]

Hm - fun fact in Nigeria and parts of West Africa it's desperately bad luck to call an owl by its name.

[MachineIV]

Hm - fun fact in Nigeria and parts of West Africa it's desperately bad luck to call an owl by its name.

Very, very bad luck.

[That Other Guy]

Very, very bad luck.

Traditionally you refer to them as 'the bird that scares you' or 'those evil birds'

[Asaram]

Creepy Fact: I know a senior citizen that keeps an owl skull in a bag above her front door to keep evil spirits out. Apparently the spirit of the owl scares away the nasty things. (Makes you wonder how mean the owl spirit has to be in order to do that, right?)
Folklore is nice sometimes.

[zap rowsdower]

I assumed it was just a powerful Gangrel with full mastery of protean. I can't remember the name but the 5 dot power for protean lets you transform into a smoke cloud with glowing eyes.

[LostLight]

Very, very bad luck.

This all thread was worth it just to see that comment :P

However- I've just thought about something: because of the aesthetics of the Nameless and the fact that B&S present the strixs as "story triggers", it kinda makes the connection between the Nameless and the Owls into almost too obvious.. so wouldn't it be scarier if the Nameless wouldn't be connected to the strixs? I mean, here come the characters, who did an extensive research about the strixs, and who are sure that they finally ready to get rid of the mysterious tyrant of Montreal- when they discover that they made a big (maybe even fatal) mistake...

any ideas about that line of thought?

(edit- not that I have any problem with connecting the Nameless to the strixs. I really like thinking that there is a connection- but I simply wonder about any other possibilities)

[solomon birch]

I know nothing about mages. And neither do vampires. A mage with a hair up his arse about kindred?

[Tatterdemalion King]

I honestly considered that it may be one of the Gentry, personally. Some funky one that has some Shadow People (as previously mused) like Themes, or one of those entities from the Death Dream dominion from Book of the Dead if it wasn't a Strix. Seemed an interesting alternative.

[MachineIV]

This all thread was worth it just to see that comment :P

However- I've just thought about something: because of the aesthetics of the Nameless and the fact that B&S present the strixs as "story triggers", it kinda makes the connection between the Nameless and the Owls into almost too obvious.. so wouldn't it be scarier if the Nameless wouldn't be connected to the strixs? I mean, here come the characters, who did an extensive research about the strixs, and who are sure that they finally ready to get rid of the mysterious tyrant of Montreal- when they discover that they made a big (maybe even fatal) mistake...

any ideas about that line of thought?

(edit- not that I have any problem with connecting the Nameless to the strixs. I really like thinking that there is a connection- but I simply wonder about any other possibilities)

There's a reason it seems too obvious. There are some clues people haven't picked up on yet (at least, nobody's posted about on the forums). A couple of the clues have come up. But not the ones I'd call essential.

[Satchel]

There's a reason it seems too obvious. There are some clues people haven't picked up on yet (at least, nobody's posted about on the forums). A couple of the clues have come up. But not the ones I'd call essential.

Are Rule V and the unstated headcount cutoff in Rule II among those clues?