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  • #61
    another relevant question?

    Is a multicovenant member likely to be sought out over an outsider if you want to get your heart surgically removed to guard against dieing or such.

    He gets in trouble if he LEAKS the magics he's learned but is expected to try making a profvit with them.


    That is an EXCELLENT guard if your going on a suicide mission.

    Though even a multicovenant member will probably charge dearly for such things Have to keep a roof from the sun somehow.


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    • #62
      Originally posted by Prince of the Night View Post
      another relevant question?

      Is a multicovenant member likely to be sought out over an outsider if you want to get your heart surgically removed to guard against dieing or such.

      He gets in trouble if he LEAKS the magics he's learned but is expected to try making a profvit with them.


      That is an EXCELLENT guard if your going on a suicide mission.

      Though even a multicovenant member will probably charge dearly for such things Have to keep a roof from the sun somehow.
      I personally haven’t played anyone insane enough to think chopping themself up piecemeal is conducive to survival but I did have a Ventrue who obsessed over learning Protean simply to learn how to turn herself into a swarm of insects (she saw another kindred do it) and wanted to expand it and turn herself into a murder of crows so she can be in multiple places at once. (Only part of that goal is met.)

      Individual context matters. In one setting, I’d say yes. Mostly because the Ordo Dracul is a real secret society in that chronicle, not a recognized covenant. In that particular instance, he would effectively be asking a fellow covenant member vs. an outsider for a boon.

      In another setting, there would be a kindred ice skating party celebrating a frozen Friday in Hell before she would ask the multi covenant Dragon member for anything. For one (and most importantly) the multi covenant member Dragon is the Mysteries Oracle who cemented his reputation as a douchebag who screws everyone over at the first opportunity and his status within the Invictus is purely political, not meritocratic. Secondly, she already established cordial relationships with the kogaion, friendly relationships with the Axe Grandmaster and Dying Light Twilight Judge, and several coteries involved in different arcane and scientific projects around the city, some of whom are Dragons. If she got the idea in her head that it’s absolutely necessary to remove her heart and place it in a jar somewhere, she is actually more likely to call in boons and favors owed to simply get the requisite status for herself to learn it, get her childe (who is Unchained and the law clerk to the Twilight Judge) to obtain instruction in the process or (most likely) for the Twilight Judge to permit the city’s Meister of Medicine access to the relevant research materials to learn the procedure.
      Last edited by tsusasi; 10-05-2018, 06:50 AM.

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      • #63
        curious, lets try compiling the disciplines, and sorcery rituals that can be given out as gifts or used as leverage in negotiations?

        The Theban sorcery Dhampir creation ritual can but the Cruac one cant sadly.


        Most Ordo Dracul Scales I think would work


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        • #64
          Theban Sorcery is good for gifts: Vitae Reliquary, Blessed Medallion (a ritual from Walking Shadows that basically stores a point of willpower in an object for a one-time-use boost later), Aaron's Rod, Apparition of the Host, Apple of Eden, Guiding Stars, even the Dead Sun for emergencies…there are a whole lot of rituals that make enchanted objects that other people can use.

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          • #65
            The Devotion Shared Sight, how potent would it be to use on a police officer scrambling for answers to a difficult case?


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