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  • Originally posted by Ventrue Life View Post

    Fair enough, but when a vampire suffers the effect of a venom, does he get lethal damage like mortals or bashing because vampires typically downgrade lethal to bashing unless otherwise specified? Sounds like nofather thinks it should be bashing and my gut feeling says the same, but I want to double check to make sure.

    Does this mean that the "snake venom dissolves Vitae" clause from 1e is not carried over to 2e?

    I believe they would downgrade the damage to bashing because if a mortal would take lethal damage they would take bashing damage is the general rule of it.

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    • in half damned it Said the Mikhalli had the discipline of Bereschligost mechanically identical to Chary.

      Also says that Dhampir's ghoul's and other kindred ajacent beings some times demonstrate Chary


      but NO ONE but a revenant has any use for first dot of Chary even if they could learn it and several others too.

      is this an "Oops!"?


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      • Originally posted by Prince of the Night View Post
        but NO ONE but a revenant has any use for first dot of Chary even if they could learn it and several others too.
        According to their clan curse they have some odd sleeping schedules that might make it worth having. Especially considering the more competitive atmosphere and that those they embrace may be blood-hungry revenants that might try to take advantage during daysleep or longer torpor, such as across a harsh winter.

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        • Originally posted by Ventrue Life View Post

          Because each time you go in torpor you encounter a Breaking Point until you drop below Humanity 6.

          Besides, what difference does it make to a revenant? Why would a revenant care whether he sleeps 1 day, 1 month or 1 year between each night? If anything, going in Torpor will make unlife even worse, because Torpor is not a pleasant experience. It's not like you're just sleeping like a human. A vampire or revenant in Torpor has all kinds of fucked up nightmares that won't stop until he wakes up again.

          fair enough

          Is the torpor nightmares thing the reason to not just stake prisoner's why the invictus use the oath of the model prisoner?


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          • Originally posted by Prince of the Night View Post
            Is the torpor nightmares thing the reason to not just stake prisoner's why the invictus use the oath of the model prisoner?
            Sometimes someone who's punished is useful to keep around and active. For instance someone who may have betrayed the Invictus, but is willing to turn on their conspirators. If they're staked, they're a non-entity, but if they're up and about they can tell you who they were working with.

            Plus it allows the Invictus to appear to be gracious and merciful.

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            • a carthian or acolyte?



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              • Originally posted by Prince of the Night View Post
                a carthian or acolyte?
                Anyone.

                Besides there's so much that can go wrong with a staking from the staked person's view. If there's a strix, a revolution, a hunter threat, VII, even just a natural disaster, the vampires who know about you and where you are could be gone and you're just left there until random chance lets someone stumble onto your corpse, hopefully not under the sun, and maybe removes the stake.

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                • can Strix possess someone who's been staked?


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                  • Originally posted by Prince of the Night View Post
                    can Strix possess someone who's been staked?
                    Yes. Blood & Smoke, p205, 'Notably, as the joined entity uses the Strix’s banes and the victim is already in torpor, staking does not have any effect beyond the physical damage inflicted'.

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                    • oh? Coil of the wyrm? Any reason for someone wanting to make a berserker focused on the coil to pick a clan other then Gangrel

                      The claws from protean are a HUGE boon.


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                      • Originally posted by Prince of the Night View Post
                        oh? Coil of the wyrm? Any reason for someone wanting to make a berserker focused on the coil to pick a clan other then Gangrel

                        The claws from protean are a HUGE boon.
                        Not everyone wants to be Gangrel, and since it's not generally a hack and slash game increasing killing power isn't always the highest priority.

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                        • for someone with Coil of the wyrm? iif thats part of your concept a reason to go for any other clan?


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                          • Originally posted by Prince of the Night View Post
                            for someone with Coil of the wyrm? iif thats part of your concept a reason to go for any other clan?
                            That seems like a circular logic. Yes, if you want to play a Gangrel with Coil of the Wyrm, you should pick Gangrel. But not everyone wants to be Gangrel, and the coil is available to every clan, so you can be other clans. Doing Aggravated damage is not the end-all be all of the game, and there are other methods to do it to vampires, having the coils control of the Beast implies a vampire could be less psychologically vulnerable to fire, for instance, and you could use it as a weapon. Or you could just do Lethal, or Bashing.

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                            • is their a reason to use the coil for anything but a combat monster?


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                              • Originally posted by Prince of the Night View Post
                                is their a reason to use the coil for anything but a combat monster?
                                It would be worth it solely for the increased ability to control the Beast, rather than being controlled by it.

                                You ask a lot of questions, some which might already have answers in the text. If you want to talk to people or get answers at a faster, more chatlike pace, there's a Chronicles of Darkness Discord server that has a Vampire the Requiem channel (and channels for every other game). I think you can reach it here.

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