Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Whete do Kindred get money from?

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #16
    Originally posted by atamajakki View Post

    I don't think there are too many Nosferatu prostitutes, for the same reason that Promethean sex workers don't last long.
    So what if they aren't pretty by default? That's nothing obfuscate won't fix for anyone simply looking for anonymous sex. And their discipline spread makes them highly effective pimps.

    Comment


    • #17
      Originally posted by Ephsy View Post

      This would be more accurate on Masquerade.
      I played a Nosferatu who owned a Brothel and fed on all his workers. Striking Looks.

      Originally posted by tsusasi View Post

      So what if they aren't pretty by default? That's nothing obfuscate won't fix for anyone simply looking for anonymous sex. And their discipline spread makes them highly effective pimps.
      nothing that says that they have to be ugly ..

      Comment


      • #18
        Nosferatu working girls are plenty pretty, as long as you consider the spread. Tough to average a group that has "openly bearing mortal wounds" "voice that periodically sounds as if it's coming from behind you" and "uncanny valley perfection" as aesthetic examples.

        They just gotta keep their Humanity up, and be good at spinning the kind of rumors likely to be spawned by an undead predator scoring an exceptional failure on Presence or Manipulation roll with a John/pimp. Depending on the particulars, that might be an asset, even, if a volatile one.

        Comment


        • #19
          Originally posted by tsusasi View Post
          Most vampires engage in the world's oldest profession.
          Mammoth hunting.


          Sean K.I.W./Kelly R.A. Steele, Freelance Writer(Feel free to call me Sean, Kelly, Arcane, or Arc)
          The world is not beautiful, therefore it is.-Keiichi Sigsawa, Kino's Journey
          Male/neutral pronouns accepted, female pronouns enjoyed.

          Comment


          • #20
            Originally posted by Hastur00 View Post
            Nosferatu working girls are plenty pretty, as long as you consider the spread. Tough to average a group that has "openly bearing mortal wounds" "voice that periodically sounds as if it's coming from behind you" and "uncanny valley perfection" as aesthetic examples.

            They just gotta keep their Humanity up, and be good at spinning the kind of rumors likely to be spawned by an undead predator scoring an exceptional failure on Presence or Manipulation roll with a John/pimp. Depending on the particulars, that might be an asset, even, if a volatile one.
            No exquisite beauty without some strangeness in the proportion.


            Sean K.I.W./Kelly R.A. Steele, Freelance Writer(Feel free to call me Sean, Kelly, Arcane, or Arc)
            The world is not beautiful, therefore it is.-Keiichi Sigsawa, Kino's Journey
            Male/neutral pronouns accepted, female pronouns enjoyed.

            Comment


            • #21
              Originally posted by ArcaneArts View Post
              No exquisite beauty without some strangeness in the proportion.
              2e core seems to disagree.

              Comment


              • #22
                Originally posted by Morangias View Post
                2e core seems to disagree.
                This is true. There is even a thread somewhere about "pretty" nosferatus with the striking looks merit.

                Comment


                • #23
                  Originally posted by Morangias View Post
                  2e core seems to disagree.
                  Disregarding that I was being incredibly vague but that I was agreeing that Nosferatu's could pull off the harlot trick, considering the writer of the Clans wrote a WoD book including vampires called Strangeness in the Proportion, I am inclined to consider this notion bull hockey. Requiem 2E is saturated with the phrase's meaning.


                  Sean K.I.W./Kelly R.A. Steele, Freelance Writer(Feel free to call me Sean, Kelly, Arcane, or Arc)
                  The world is not beautiful, therefore it is.-Keiichi Sigsawa, Kino's Journey
                  Male/neutral pronouns accepted, female pronouns enjoyed.

                  Comment


                  • #24
                    Strangeness in the proportion doesn't necessarily mean ugliness, remember. Uncanny Valley beauty is so because of subtle strangeness in the proportion combined with a certain unnatural movement, when animated.

                    Comment


                    • #25
                      Originally posted by atamajakki View Post
                      I assume that only the newest of neonates signs up for a part-time graveyard shift job and uses their days off to feed, but where do the rest of the vampires get their money from? Does the average vampire rely on her Covenant to pay for her Haven and night-to-night needs? I'm genuinely curious, and running up short on ideas.
                      One of my game's PCs has a ghoul with Obfuscate 1 who never pays for groceries. She just walks into a store, fills up her bags, and walks out. She also steals merchandise from other (chain) places that she sells online. It's not going to make her a millionaire, but it's a sufficiently steady flow of cash that she doesn't need to work, and spread out over a lot of stores it's fairly low-risk.

                      Jobs are for suckers. There are a million ways Kindred can use their powers to get rich. A Kindred in need of immediate cash can just Dominate some schmuck into withdrawing their ATM daily limit and forking it over. Kindred without Dominate can simply pick wallets off people they mug. Now, that sort of behavior is going to endanger the Masquerade and attract possible hunter and/or police attention if it's repeated too frequently, but even a more subtle Kindred has no end of potential ways to conjure wealth. Daeva and Ventrue have it easiest, with their "make people like you" Disciplines, while Mekhet and Nosferatu can make stellar thieves. (The Shadows can also make "lucky" casino players and stock brokers too, thanks to Auspex.) Gangrel are the only clan whose Discipline spread doesn't immediately seem to lend itself to making money, but even Animalism and Protean can be used in some pretty creative ways. The Vinculum is also a universal power not to be discounted.

                      Your more successful vampires, though, aren't the ones who are personally using Obfuscate to steal overpriced crap from Whole Foods. They function much like real-world crime bosses and fat cats do: they have ownership (often indirect, such as through a ghoul) in financial enterprises that rake in lots of dough. Developing those sorts of connections can take time (and some degree of ingenuity), but that's one thing the Kindred have in spades. Not all wind up rich, of course. Some lack the subtlety or know-how to use their powers to good effect, particularly if the Vinculum is the only major tool they have. Others might simply lack interest in investing the necessary time and effort to become rich.

                      So far as covenants paying for havens and night-to-night expenses, sufficiently wealthy covenants might do that in return for favors, a tithe of vitae, or simply to keep neonates financially dependent on them and more susceptible to other forms of manipulation. ("Sure, I'll pay for that haven. You just have to entrust me with where you sleep during the day.") I don't see many elder vampires handing out money without no strings attached, though. Or many neonates _wanting_ to be dependent on their elders that way. The covenants function more like clubs, political parties, and secret societies than businesses which pay their "employees" in return for labor, so that sort of situation doesn't strike me as the norm.


                      Blood and Bourbon, my New Orleans-based Vampire chronicle.

                      Comment


                      • #26
                        Originally posted by False Epiphany View Post

                        One of my game's PCs has a ghoul with Obfuscate 1 who never pays for groceries. She just walks into a store, fills up her bags, and walks out. She also steals merchandise from other (chain) places that she sells online. It's not going to make her a millionaire, but it's a sufficiently steady flow of cash that she doesn't need to work, and spread out over a lot of stores it's fairly low-risk.
                        hmm... what happens if one of those "merchandise alarms" goes off? I suppose there's 2 ways to deal with that. A. "I hate it when this alarm goes off for no F-ing reason" or B. "Ma'am I'm going to need you to stop." Probably just clash of wills to tell which.


                        Graphic Inspirational Photos for Chronicles of Darkness on Pinterest
                        Chronicles of Darkness Slack (PM Me with Email for an Invite, then invite your friends)

                        Comment


                        • #27
                          I happen to think that the Dominate/Obfuscate combo is the most versatile of all the discipline spread (my opinion.) Using these two displines, my vampire character has simply visited several upper middle class households and convinced (dominated) the heads of household to send an envelope with a little cash each month to what is now their favorite 'charity.' About a dozen families are working to provide me with resources 3.

                          Comment


                          • #28
                            I like the idea of Ventrue going door to door 'asking' people to sponsor vampires for a low monthly fee.

                            Comment


                            • #29
                              Originally posted by xenoterracide View Post

                              hmm... what happens if one of those "merchandise alarms" goes off? I suppose there's 2 ways to deal with that. A. "I hate it when this alarm goes off for no F-ing reason" or B. "Ma'am I'm going to need you to stop." Probably just clash of wills to tell which.
                              She takes off any tags while she's in the store. Merchandise that's more secure she simply doesn't target.


                              Blood and Bourbon, my New Orleans-based Vampire chronicle.

                              Comment


                              • #30
                                -Find a very good fence

                                -Rent an okay tuxedo

                                -Troll high-society parties and... admire people's jewelry. With Dominate

                                -Bonus points for bringing a waiter uniform and using Obfuscate to steal everything that isn't nailed down, like optimized console-RPG-style kleptomania. Not for dollar count, there's far simpler ways for that, but you might start an urban legend or something.








                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X