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  • #31
    Originally posted by Seidmadr View Post

    I'll keep that in mind if OPP ever does Viking: the Sea-faring.
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    • #32
      This thread has stats for lesser and adult dragons as Horrors.


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      • #33
        Originally posted by GibberingEloquence View Post
        This thread has stats for lesser and adult dragons as Horrors.
        Good example. Just need to change the fire to poison, and re-fluff them a little and they work just fine.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Seidmadr View Post
          Good example. Just need to change the fire to poison, and re-fluff them a little and they work just fine.
          Agreed. And if you wanted to have an Elder Dragon, you could increase the Potency to 8 and give them the Unbreakable and Colossus Dread Powers, as Pale Crusader suggested.

          What might be a good Ban and Bane for a Nordic dragon?


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          • #35
            Oh hey, that's where it went. Huh, it needs more beasties to meet... oh well.

            Originally posted by GibberingEloquence View Post
            Agreed. And if you wanted to have an Elder Dragon, you could increase the Potency to 8 and give them the Unbreakable and Colossus Dread Powers, as Pale Crusader suggested.

            What might be a good Ban and Bane for a Nordic dragon?
            Greed related? Fafnir and all that.


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            • #36
              I generally feel that great ancient chthonic serpents (possibly with a serpentine character type, ala naga, tied to them) are something that the WoD could use in general.


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              • #37
                Snakes in World of Darkness seem to revolve more around wisdom, healing and dreams.

                The clanbook nosferatu and nosferatu lore does make a lot of references to chthonic worms, however. I tend to view them as related to Zmai, the worm from the back of the Predators book.
                Last edited by nofather; 01-05-2017, 01:31 AM.

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                • #38
                  The bane is usually a slash along the belly, but it could be a special weapon. A creature such as a dragon would have a high level bane I would think, and high level spirits call for something specific. So a sword made of steel from the local bog or some such. The ban would have to deal with greed. Think lord of the rings smaug.


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                  • #39
                    Almarck,

                    Thanks for the link in your Signature, combined with these threads I have ideas for Mechs vs Dragons with other Chronicles of Darkness strangeness as timelines/alternate reality breakdown as the God-Machine throws a few pistons and grinds some gears in Palladium Rifts fashion.

                    Sigh, there goes my credibility as a serious Storyteller, because that is so Pulp it hurts in all the right ways. Maybe I just haven't had my dose of Action-packed Special-Effect driven blockbuster RPG in too long. Got to feed the inner child every once in a while.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Pale_Crusader View Post
                      Almarck,

                      Thanks for the link in your Signature, combined with these threads I have ideas for Mechs vs Dragons with other Chronicles of Darkness strangeness as timelines/alternate reality breakdown as the God-Machine throws a few pistons and grinds some gears in Palladium Rifts fashion.

                      Sigh, there goes my credibility as a serious Storyteller, because that is so Pulp it hurts in all the right ways. Maybe I just haven't had my dose of Action-packed Special-Effect driven blockbuster RPG in too long. Got to feed the inner child every once in a while.

                      Well, I am glad someone finds a use for the things I brewed up.


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                      • #41
                        Returning to possible idea for the chronicle plot. I think on running the 'fire breathing, winged lizard' European Dragon as Idigam - just because it's so 'alien' to the day-to-day beliefs of Norseman. Maybe it come from Christandom, taking form of newest 'beasts' in those countries, and now wanting to invade North.

                        I think that using Idigam would be good for me as WtF ST, maybe I will be more convinced as 2E 'outside of box' antagonist. Question/challenge is simple - How to stat 'European Dragon' as Idigam for 2E Werewolf?


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                        • #42
                          Well, I'd give it the Colossus and Elemental Fury (Fire) Dread powers for starters. Maybe also Essence Attack, Blast and Natural Weapons too.

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                          • #43
                            Part of the problem is that if you make a dragon as just a 'hunt and kill' monster that ravages the countryside, then you've turned an idigam into an 'inside the box' antagonist.

                            You can use Horror mechanics and various Dread Powers to emulate it pretty easily.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by nofather View Post
                              Part of the problem is that if you make a dragon as just a 'hunt and kill' monster that ravages the countryside, then you've turned an idigam into an 'inside the box' antagonist.
                              What really would be a difference - from Horror!Dragon and Idigam!Dragon?


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                              • #45
                                Well, for instance, a Horror Dragon would act more like a traditional story dragon. Flying over villages, burning them to the ground, taking gold and virgins or demanding them from kings in exchange for not doing the burning. It would be using Dread Powers and Numina (through the Numina Dread Power). You might even base it off an Incarnate Beast.

                                An idigam is attempting to become something that doesn't exist, and basically a twisted blight upon the world. I'd say like the Dragon from Dragon Age? But I never finished the game so I couldn't confirm that if it maintained its 'changing the world' vibe from the beginning. You can see what the various idigam do in the core book. Look at the Babbling Tower section of the Sundered World Dark Era, which depicts an idigam, its cult, and what happens when it's interrupted, or what happens after it has coalesced. It would be using Essence Shaping and Forge Servant in addition to its other powers.

                                Basically there's a lot more to idigam than rampaging monster that someone kills, which is what you seem to be going for.
                                Last edited by nofather; 09-02-2017, 04:20 PM.

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