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  • Acrozatarim's Pangaeans are great (and obviously the basis for Burrower) and they each have different feels to them, with Reflection being extremely conceptual, like a spirit, and Harvest having a towering, physical presence.
    With Burrower I intended to go one step further than Harvest and show how physical and visceral a Pangaean can really be. As such, most of the unique powers of Burrower deals with her physical interactions with her environment. Even Perforate got a physical flavour to it, with Burrower literally digging herself to other realms. The only problem is, it left Burrower without an overarching theme, imo.

    Any criticism and/or suggestions are very welcome.


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    • To maintain consistency with other Rank 5 Pangaeans, the Bane must utilize corpses of 555 burrowing animals - not 55. Aside from that, I love it!


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      • That's one of the few things about the semi-official Pangaeans I dislike. Higher numbers only make collecting the Bane more tedious. Besides, I think the drawn out process of extracting the bones makes up for the relative low number of parts.


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        • Originally posted by Tessie View Post
          That's one of the few things about the semi-official Pangaeans I dislike. Higher numbers only make collecting the Bane more tedious. Besides, I think the drawn out process of extracting the bones makes up for the relative low number of parts.
          I second that. I did something similar as well with Turtle's Bane.


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          • Now that we have the first (unofficial) example of a Rank 6+ Pangaean in the Pangaea Unleashed thread, anybody getting creative juices for their own? We’ve had a few ideas for Rank 6+ floating here, yes?

            (My own mental juices are dried up; studying International Laws do that to you)


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            • Originally posted by 21C Hermit View Post
              Now that we have the first (unofficial) example of a Rank 6+ Pangaean in the Pangaea Unleashed thread, anybody getting creative juices for their own? We’ve had a few ideas for Rank 6+ floating here, yes?

              (My own mental juices are dried up; studying International Laws do that to you)
              Well, I for one am going to be revisiting my writeup for Turtle. I might retain the stats I worked out for him, though, to reflect what can happen if/when he is struck by his Bane (under my House Rules).


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              • Updated Bird's section (as she is clearly the power behind the Perspective right now), and added Boar (which shows up in the book. Why didn't anyone told me? :P )


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                • Originally posted by LostLight View Post
                  Updated Bird's section (as she is clearly the power behind the Perspective right now), and added Boar (which shows up in the book. Why didn't anyone told me? :P )
                  Saw it. I also see you read up on my Aharnuz writeup for Sundered World if it's also included. I'll need to revisit that too so I can make some updates.
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                  • So a question- after having Bird's writeup, do you still think she'll make a good patron/progenitor for the Distant Ones? I mean, it seems like the werefalcons don't have much in common with Bird, as they lack her cruelty, time/space manipulation abilities or augury, and have instead a major focus around royalty and distant kingship, as well as freedom and worthiness. Perhaps they are instead the children of Sky, or heck, maybe even the Sky Hunter (the Firstborn, that is)? Maybe Sky Hunter was the child of Wolf and Bird (don't ask why, seriously), and they have developed the Distant One's ritual after Pangaea's fall in an attempt to replicate their father's creation? Or maybe they are simply the children of Falcon, who is a Pangaean under Bird's rulership which does not really go with her ideology?


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                    • They themselves don't seem to hold much of a mythology, going by their own write-up. They could just be distant from it, and its cruelty shows through them inherently in their arrogance, even if the rest of it is curbed.

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                      • Originally posted by LostLight View Post
                        So a question- after having Bird's writeup, do you still think she'll make a good patron/progenitor for the Distant Ones? I mean, it seems like the werefalcons don't have much in common with Bird, as they lack her cruelty, time/space manipulation abilities or augury, and have instead a major focus around royalty and distant kingship, as well as freedom and worthiness. Perhaps they are instead the children of Sky, or heck, maybe even the Sky Hunter (the Firstborn, that is)? Maybe Sky Hunter was the child of Wolf and Bird (don't ask why, seriously), and they have developed the Distant One's ritual after Pangaea's fall in an attempt to replicate their father's creation? Or maybe they are simply the children of Falcon, who is a Pangaean under Bird's rulership which does not really go with her ideology?
                        The Distant Ones could be descended from an “avian monstrosity with something of the guise of a human,” as written in the Feather Transmogrification power/phenomenon in Bird’s writeup.


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                        • So while I've never read Stephan King or watched It, the discussion about "It as an idigam" by Cinder has made me to make a small research about the subject and I must say that the 12 Guardians do sound like something cool to adapt as Pangaean, even if without the whole Beams thing and the rest of the myth (unless you use the White as the God Machine and the Red as Inferno/Dark Mother or something). I mean, Wolf is already written as one such Guardian- and who knows? Perhaps he was the Guardian of the "CofD's Beam", together with Bird/Eagle, or Snake, or even Rat (with him going "bad" may be the reason for Wolf to hunt him down). Anyway, as adapting the Stephan King Universe is not the subject of this thread, I think that among the 12 Guardians, Wolf, Eagle (as Bird), Snake and Rat have their place in the setting. Turtle, Bear, Lion and Bat were also suggested in the thread itself (I know that Cinder has detailed his version for Bat's finale fate, but I can't shake the vision of Bat shattering her Omphalus and becoming the idigam which birthed the Bat Host). That leaves Horse, Elephant, Fish and Hare.

                          And for something completely different, another inspiration could be taken from the Chinese Zodiac- we have Rat, Bull, Tiger, Hare, Snake, Horse, Goat/Sheep, Monkey, Rooster (unlikely to be an aspect of Bird, IMO), Dog (Wolf?), Pig/Boar and Dragon- and Cat, who was tricked by Rat to miss the banquet. Again, some of those already exist in the setting (Rat, Bull, Snake, Boar, Cat and Wolf, in case he covers Dog), while Hare and Horse overlap with the previous suggestion. That leaves Tiger, Sheep, Monkey and Rooster as inspiration sources.

                          So- any ideas for those suggested Pangaeans and their place in the setting?


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                          • Originally posted by LostLight View Post
                            (I know that Cinder has detailed his version for Bat's finale fate, but I can't shake the vision of Bat shattering her Omphalus and becoming the idigam which birthed the Bat Host).
                            Oh, don't worry about that. That was ages ago, before plenty of new Werewolf material and lots of discussions about Pangeans, Hosts in 2nd Edition and such (not to mention I lurked and disappeared quite a bit back then). I tried to salvage the connection between my idigam and my Host as it was made back in 1st Edition, but nowadays I'd rather have Bat giving birth to the Bat Host (which I'm still fond of, don't get me wrong) and have the Obsidian Butterfly as an idigam unrelated to them. I like her too, but to keep that relationship between idigam and the Bats causes problem to both and keeps them bound to each other while also robbing them of potential.

                            As far as I'm concerned, if you want to have a Bat Pangean breaking her Omphalus and giving birth to the Suthilu I wrote, you have my blessing. I do the same. Consider it a 2nd Edition update between us fans.

                            EDIT: Also, this makes me think that perhaps I should move my Bat Host update higher on my list of things to do
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                            • I feel that there's plenty of horse symbolism that would make for an interesting Pangaean, but they weren't as important to humans in the Neolithic. If they survived post-pangaea, however...
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                              • Originally posted by Gryphon's Feather View Post
                                I feel that there's plenty of horse symbolism that would make for an interesting Pangaean, but they weren't as important to humans in the Neolithic. If they survived post-pangaea, however...
                                I'm getting the mental image of an ambitious Pangaean that planned for their own rise after the Sundering. Only to later fall prey to a Machine Spirit in modern time (representing the transition of humanity from animal-powered transportation to purely machine-powered transit).


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