[2E] Uratha and languages

[wyrdhamster]

Fetish – Tongue Splitter (••)
This knife is splitting tongues – both physically and metaphorically. It’s often used in infiltration of foreign territory, by various werewolves.
Effect: Tongue Splitter let’s a user with Skin Thief Facet to cut a tongue of his victim with Splitter and then eat it. This marks a user to use all languages victim knew for one full lunar month.

About using of Tongue Splitter - Would it be Harmony Breaking Point? If yes, on what side? It's not killing of the victim. It clearly would be Integrity Breaking Point on level of 'Causing visible serious injury to a person', so -2 penalty? Or maybe -3 as Torture one?

[wyrdhamster]

Pondering on Harmony Breaking Points of using Fetish - it looks like it would be Breaking Point toward Spirit, as it is most the same as this from WtF 2E corebook:

Eating human or wolf flesh for Essence (–3)

Just change 'for Essence' into 'to get Fetish effect' and it's perfect fit.

[wyrdhamster]

Thinking about real game scenario where one of packmember was not partaking in Shared Tongue Rite, should he have benefits of it also? Stupid Loserman seems to imply packmember should not, simply on mechanics how Pack Rites generally works. On the other hand, would it be something weird when, for example, only part of pack members start to speak fluently in Greek or First Tongue - and other that did not participate, do not?

No. The passage in the book you quote is not saying that a Pack Rite's benefits spread across all pack members no matter where they are in the world. It's saying that non-Uratha packmates (humans, Wolf-Blooded, any local weirdos) also benefit when they participate in a Pack Rite, unlike Wolf Rites, whose benefits are only conferred to Uratha participants.

You could write a homebrew rite whose effects are conferred even to non-participants, as a weird exception case. But it'd be weird and you usually shouldn't, because Rites are established as being communal in nature. You don't sit out a Rite. Rites are inclusive.

[Tessie]

I don't see what's weird about it. Pack Rites aren't effects that affect the whole Pack; they're effects that anyone in the Pack may participate in.
If someone didn't participate in a Rite that grants an effect to the participants, then that person is excluded from the effect. Depending on the context that may be an insult towards the non-participating member (especially if it's one of the uratha) or it might just be that they simply were unavailable, in which case tough luck.