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  • #16
    Moon landing and Idigams are mentioned in frame in 1E WtF corebook even.


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    • #17
      While technology is a difficult theme to marry into the game, I really wouldn't say it doesn't have any place at all. I can totally see a pack of rural Iron Masters using Gift/Rite enhanced remote controlled drones (or maybe drone Fetishes with bound Raptor spirits that reveals Twilit entities on camera) to patrol their vast steppe/prairie territory.

      Still, the space race didn't inherently introduce technology with Uratha existence. Unless a pack was directly involved in NASA before the landings, Uratha would probably not go further than to investigate NASA and the returned pods once someone pieces together why a bunch of idigam suddenly showed up. The new plans for a manned landing does introduce new possibilities with savvy and informed Uratha trying to infiltrate (or just straight up sabotage) Roscosmos to stop the new mission.


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      • #18
        Tech-Gnosticism is sort of an undercurrent that can be put in anything with the God-Machine, and the moon landing unleashing something was in the very first NWoD book. Though I always took that to be a God-Machine entity, did they retcon all of that as Idigam or were a variety of things unleashed from the moon?

        Also, werewolves having to hitch a ride on a Russian rocket to the Moon to search the prisons of the Idigam for clues as to their Banes would be a good chronicle ender.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by WaywardPaladin View Post
          Tech-Gnosticism is sort of an undercurrent that can be put in anything with the God-Machine, and the moon landing unleashing something was in the very first NWoD book. Though I always took that to be a God-Machine entity, did they retcon all of that as Idigam or were a variety of things unleashed from the moon?
          The latter. The story from the 1e core is just that, a story. It apparently wasn't written with anything else in mind, it was just an evocative piece of fiction.

          1e Forsaken had the Idigam hitching a ride on the Apollo Mission. It's not a call back to the story.


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          • #20
            Originally posted by WaywardPaladin View Post
            Tech-Gnosticism is sort of an undercurrent that can be put in anything with the God-Machine, and the moon landing unleashing something was in the very first NWoD book. Though I always took that to be a God-Machine entity, did they retcon all of that as Idigam or were a variety of things unleashed from the moon?
            I don't think it was an entity. It's been some time since I read it but I think it was a pretty small object that was retrieved. Regardless, neither, either or both can be true in your game. Perhaps the Apollo retrieval mission was the only one that didn't bring back additional idigam because they couldn't bear to be close enough to the object, or perhaps an idigam had latched onto it and rode it all the way back to whatever secret facility the object now is stored in, subtly influencing the humans to unlock its potential so that the idigam can swoop in and take whatever it is for itself.


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            • #21
              Originally posted by WaywardPaladin View Post
              Tech-Gnosticism is sort of an undercurrent that can be put in anything with the God-Machine, and the moon landing unleashing something was in the very first NWoD book. Though I always took that to be a God-Machine entity, did they retcon all of that as Idigam or were a variety of things unleashed from the moon?

              Also, werewolves having to hitch a ride on a Russian rocket to the Moon to search the prisons of the Idigam for clues as to their Banes would be a good chronicle ender.
              Techgnosticism is not a God-Machine only thing. Technospiritualism in general is not a God-Machine only thing. THe God-Machine is not an all imposing thing.

              The animism of Werewolf means that the Uratha are by default technospiritualists of a sort, actually. It may not be played with thematically a whole lot (yet), but that angle on reality is, well, a reality for them.

              Anyways, the answer to the question is the latter.


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              • #22
                Google is celebrating 50th Anniversary of Moon Landing - event that we know starter Idigam Hunts Era in WtF gameline. You also think that Mike Collins could be possessed by SOMETHING in his flight around dark side of the Moon?

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                • #23
                  Well based on what we know now I'd suspect a variety of spirits (and idigam) have hidden out on the return trip, either in rocks or on their vehicle. At the risk of throwing the usual 'it depends on your game' Luna is big enough to probably wreck most planetary angels or tiny things trying to sneak past her, but some may have hidden very well or been overlooked or disguised themselves as lunes.

                  An anniversary like this might be a good time for them to finally break from their dormancy, as well.

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                  • #24
                    Imagine if an Idigam summoned a void leviathan, that it wanted to use to go pick up more bros at the Moon with.

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