In Twilight a Spirit or other Ephemeral Entity is technically on this side of the Gauntlet and does not need the reaching condition correct? So it can use influences on material beings to change the resonant condition to Open or does it need reaching to do so? How about Numina like Blast? Can a spirit use Blast while invisible in twilight on something in the flesh or must it be materialized to do so? I think it can use telekisis since that numina says a spirit does not need to be manifested. But a Spirit in twilight still suffers essence bleed and ought to fetter itself to something in the material world to stay here correct?
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Reaching is only for applying powers across the Gauntlet, which is why only spirits have access to Reaching in the first place.
All Influences and Numina can be used on material things and beings while in Twilight, unless otherwise noted. (By which I mean some Numina might require interacting with the target in a way that is impossible from Twilight.)
Yes, spirits suffer Essence bleed unless they use an appropriate Manifestation to stave that off for a while. Fetter and Claim are the two best ways to do so. Possession also works, but the duration is so short it'd risk spending more Essence than it would prevent losing through Essence bleed.
Note that this only applies to spirits. Angels and ghosts only needs to be close to their Infrastructure and Anchor Conditions, respectively. Resonant does not offer the same safe zone to spirits.
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That is pretty scary, that a spirit can smite an enemy while being invisible and insubstantial to flesh is pretty overpowered. Having a Bone Shadow in the pack is essential, but I wonder how packs without a bone Shadow or an Ithaeur can cope with hostile Spirits. I guess the same applies to packs without a Storm Lord as well, half of the town could be urged and the pack might not be aware of it. Since packs are seldom perfect some of these blind spots can be quite frightening.
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Some people do rule that Blast is one of the Numina that requires interaction with the target in a way that is impossible from Twilight. They see it as the Blast originating from the entity, thus the Blast is in Twilight if the entity is in Twilight. I think that is contradicted by the given examples. How you interpret it is up to your discretion.
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Originally posted by Tessie View PostReaching is only for applying powers across the Gauntlet, which is why only spirits have access to Reaching in the first place.
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Originally posted by KieranMullen View PostIf "Reaching" is the ability to reach across the Gauntlet, can a being on our side Reach back into the Twilight and reach the Spirit?
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If you're going to have Blast behave as an attack (rather than the "you take successes damage" type power that it is) you're better off ruling that it stays on the same "level" as the spirit. It's much more believable that the spirit can only Blast things in Twilight when it is in Twilight than the spirit always missing due to poor visibility.
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The important thing is the strengthen influence, simply because that is what will turn resonant to the open condition which is a pre-requisite for most other manifestations. Since most spirits probably dont have reaching, I assume being in twilight is enough to use an influence in the material world.
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Originally posted by maryshelly View PostThe important thing is the strengthen influence, simply because that is what will turn resonant to the open condition which is a pre-requisite for most other manifestations. Since most spirits probably dont have reaching, I assume being in twilight is enough to use an influence in the material world.Originally posted by Tessie View PostAll Influences and Numina can be used on material things and beings while in Twilight, unless otherwise noted. (By which I mean some Numina might require interacting with the target in a way that is impossible from Twilight.)
Twilight only makes it so that you can't physically interact (and communicate, generally) with non-Twilight, which only prohibits powers that require that kind of interaction. It is not a different realm (unless you're playing Mummy, but that doesn't affect spirits).
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Originally posted by Tessie View PostNote that this only applies to spirits. Angels and ghosts only needs to be close to their Infrastructure and Anchor Conditions, respectively. Resonant does not offer the same safe zone to spirits.
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