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    I know -I- could use a thread like this while I'm digesting the new core, so I figured it would be helpful for multiple people.

    First question: if I combine Gaze of the Moon from Gift of Dominance with Gaze of the Moon from Gift of Change, how long would the resulting Awestruck condition last? Since it only inflicts Lunancy for a moment and Awestruck lasts until the being stops inflicting Lunacy, RAW says it'd last for only a moment before resetting...but that seems a little iffy.


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  • #2
    With Gaze of the Moon, the werewolf's eyes only change for a moment, the Lunacy lasts. With Glorious Lunacy, depending on how strict you are to the words, it might not be compatible with Gaze of the Moon, as it activates, 'When entering a form that inflicts Lunacy.' But if you did want to allow it to work with Gaze of the Moon you would just let it last like all the others.

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    • #3
      Does a "major template" Wolf-Blood retain its ability to use rites?

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      • #4
        I'd say the rules say no. At that point you aren't a Wolf-Blooded, you're a Thing with a Tell. But it really seems like the kind of thing you might allow anyways.

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        • #5
          There's nothing about Pack Rites that require you to be Wolf-Blooded, as far as I can tell. Plain humans can do them.


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          • #6
            You need the appropriate Tells to lead them, Errol. Horse, Spirit Double and Waystone are sufficient. It's in the sidebar Other Ritemasters on pg. 143.


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            • #7
              Originally posted by Aiden View Post
              You need the appropriate Tells to lead them, Errol. Horse, Spirit Double and Waystone are sufficient. It's in the sidebar Other Ritemasters on pg. 143.
              If you go down two paragraphs, it's explicitly noted that (in "very rare occasions"), there are "humans who are performing Pack Rites by themselves".

              Being Wolf-Blooded with a particular Tell is required only if you want to pretend to be a werewolf ritemaster, not a ritemaster at all.

              So, as examples, Banish and Hunting Ground would fail if it was just a group of humans, because they rely on Shadow laws invoking a connection to Father Wolf, but Harness the Cycle and Moon's Mad Love have the standard chance to succeed, because they require no such connection.

              There's a further bit about Claimed acting as ritemasters, but the note about how the rites are "completely unknown to the People" suggest that they're rites invoking laws unavailable to humans but available to other spirits, which is not at all a stretch.


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              • #8
                I have a question that hopefully has a simple answer... If an Uratha encounters one of their active Kuruth Triggers, do they immediately go into Wasu-im or do they get a resistance roll (Resolve + Composure) first?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by NiceBrian View Post
                  I have a question that hopefully has a simple answer... If an Uratha encounters one of their active Kuruth Triggers, do they immediately go into Wasu-im or do they get a resistance roll (Resolve + Composure) first?
                  No roll, straight to Wasu-Im.


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Charlaquin View Post

                    No roll, straight to Wasu-Im.
                    Thanks. I had a feeling that was the case but wasn't sure.

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                    • #11
                      For those kuruth triggers: do they reset after the death rage wears off? It's the new moon and my irraka sees it in the sky, however, her packmates are prepared and manage to contian her without too much damage being done (and let's just pretend none of them fall to kuruth too). When she comes to and sees the new moon, does the cycle start again?

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                      • #12
                        If it's a common trigger then yes, the character would need to see/be aware of the trigger and then they would enter Wasu Im. Staying indoors and away from windows would be enough to avoid the trigger A passive trigger of your auspice moon means you may as well cage yourself for the evening and keep doing so until you get your Harmony back in balance. It doesn't matter if the character can see the moon or not, they don't have to be aware the moon is out before entering Wasu Im (being in a windowless basement room for example).

                        This fits the "uncontrollable rampaging monster under the moon" part of the werewolf myth.


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                        • #13
                          While I can understand the wolf-blooded of the pack getting aspirations (as they have actual traits), what exactly is the point of the humans in a pack getting them? Can you use their beats/xp to increase the rolls they can make?

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                          • #14
                            It gives them a bit of characterisation the storyteller can use to flesh out their reactions and stuff.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Darksider View Post
                              If it's a common trigger then yes, the character would need to see/be aware of the trigger and then they would enter Wasu Im. Staying indoors and away from windows would be enough to avoid the trigger A passive trigger of your auspice moon means you may as well cage yourself for the evening and keep doing so until you get your Harmony back in balance. It doesn't matter if the character can see the moon or not, they don't have to be aware the moon is out before entering Wasu Im (being in a windowless basement room for example).

                              This fits the "uncontrollable rampaging monster under the moon" part of the werewolf myth.

                              Oh no, I get that. What I meant was does the death rage basically last all night or will it end after however many minutes/hours your harmony states like a nomral kuruth? Basically, do you only have one nightly Death Rage or is your character staying in that cage all night?

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