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    So we have Aeon at a time period were Humanity is becoming a post Scarcity Civilization. We seem to also still be at the stage where there are less then a Trillion Humans. Even without the impossible Sci Fi tech of the setting we know based on the principles of our technology past post scarcity (with cheap accessibile fusion) we quickly develop a space infrastructure and tap the staggering resources of the Asteroid Belt. The setting downplays how insane populations can get just confined to the Solar System easily able to support hundreds of Trillions on the low end, with O’Neil Cylinder style application of space, probably mostly around the sun so they double as a Dyson Swarm. Population explodes, and even without FTL it’s reasonable to colonize nearby Solar systems like Alpha Centauri and Tau SETI even before finishing a Dyson Swarm. And things go nuts from their with a single Sun supporting a population in the Quadrillion’s and developing a Stellaser Highway to bring up travel between star systems to 90-99% the speed of light.

    Now Aeon seems to be of the opinion it’s likely around this phase civilizations usually either Collapse into extinction or Ascend. Within 10k years or so after Spaceflight.

    But that leads a lot in between as you quickly explode into populations past the Trillions, but I guess the assumptions are insane wars tend to break out. But with basic applications of science a refugee ship of less then a million could explode into Trillions in a few hundred years.

    Like how big is the Population of the Coalition?

    Nova started Colonies should probably becoming bigger then Sol if they don’t go Nutz, hell even without their Nova founders or with only a handful of low Quantum Novas. Because it’s simple exponential growth once you start harvesting the Asteroid belts of most Star systems. You don’t even need Earth like Planets.

    Because of this we could even have say an alien species roughly on the same technological timeline as Earth but without something like a Hammersmith event so they probably only have some Talents, or maybe the rare Nova or Psi being, as most species seem to only develop towards Quantum or Psi not both.

    So whatever happens after Aeon, the Population should be staggering as they make peace with Qin, and Chromatics and beat up the Doyen and at least some of the Coalition. And that means the population goes BOOM...one way or another.


    It is a time for great deeds!

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    Another aspect of post-scarcity populations is the possibility of speciation. Once humanity with vast space, fusion power, biotech advances, robotics, nanotech, and other goodies get some peace populations in the trillions will tend to become separate species. Advanced biotechnology will accelerate this trend.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Astromancer View Post
      Another aspect of post-scarcity populations is the possibility of speciation. Once humanity with vast space, fusion power, biotech advances, robotics, nanotech, and other goodies get some peace populations in the trillions will tend to become separate species. Advanced biotechnology will accelerate this trend.
      Yes! Especially with things like people actually living on different Gravities, and daily hours! It should a much quicker more exaggerated effect then any other time in History, even without gene mods, which will be a thing one way or another because you won’t be able to outlaw and control all of humanity at that point.


      It is a time for great deeds!

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      • #4
        Don’t know if you had the chance, but read the Suficiently Advanced. It’s a RPG with a interesting system of techlogy beyond any limit. The most interesting about it is the setting, humanity developed the ultimate AI, capable to communicate with itself thru the time, cant remember the name but I think it’s Singularity or something like it. As soon as it turned on it learned all about itself and it’s future, then started giving all the knowledge to humanity.

        In a few centuries humans are all around the universe, living hundred years and separated on a few dozen societies that are extremely different, some turned into virtual realities, some became multiple people (self replicating), some are complete aliens that live on huge spaceships travelling the universe.

        I read it back in 2010/11 and once in a while I pick it up and read some ideas for sci-fi societies.

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        • #5
          That does sound interesting! Never heard of it, thanks for the suggested reading!


          It is a time for great deeds!

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          • #6
            "Man After Man: An Anthropology of the Future" is a fun book from 1990 detailing the evolution of possible human subspecies either from natural forces or intentional genetic engineering, ranging from 200 years to 5 million years in the future.


            Ian A. A. Watson
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            • #7
              Originally posted by IanWatson View Post
              "Man After Man: An Anthropology of the Future" is a fun book from 1990 detailing the evolution of possible human subspecies either from natural forces or intentional genetic engineering, ranging from 200 years to 5 million years in the future.
              Oh, neat. I have his The New Dinosaurs book (if dinosaurs had continued to evolve without the massive die off), which is also a lot of fun.


              What is tolerance? It is the consequence of humanity. We are all formed of frailty and error; let us pardon reciprocally each other's folly. That is the first law of nature.
              Voltaire, "Tolerance" (1764)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Eldagusto View Post
                That does sound interesting! Never heard of it, thanks for the suggested reading!
                https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product...ently-Advanced

                Found it!
                I bought it in 2010, look like it’s was available since 2008.

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