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    Hello guys,

    I was playing with the numbers after some discussion about the speed of a rocket. At first I thought that a Rocked, like Saturn V would make about Mach 6, but indeed it is much faster, about Mach 22. Then I remade the scale table I used and got this values. As Ian said more than once, it’s not about the precise numbers but what they mean to the characters in game... but I do love numbers...

    So, the multiplier is x5 per scale, except for Might that is 125 (5^3) and Space Speed that is 25 (5^2, because 2 dots in flight or in Mega Speed add 1 dot in Space Speed, it’s somewhere on the new rules).

    Notice that the only on the extremes it doesn’t work properly, BUT is a nice example for how big or small it is. One Atom has a diameter or 0,1 to 0,5 Nanometers, so the Scale -9 Nova is about 800 atoms tall, and Earth is about 12,75 Mm, so a Nova Scale 9 is about ⅓ of Earths diameter tall.

    On Space speed, Scale 6 is very close to the light speed, so basically the maximum possible (as specified in the book). After Scale 6, I added the Warp factor for people into Star Trek.

    On Might, Earth mass is about 6 x 10^24 kg, while a Pton is about 10^18. The Nova can’t move the Earth, but, come on, it was close...

    Here are the numbers, I hope we have fun discussing it...

    Scale Size
    -9 204 nano
    -8 1 micron
    -7 5 micron
    -6 25 micron
    -5 128 micron
    -4 640 micron
    -3 3 mm
    -2 16 mm
    -1 80 mm
    0 400 mm
    1 2 m
    2 10 m
    3 50 m
    4 250 m
    5 1 km
    6 6 km
    7 31 km
    8 156 km
    9 781 km
    10 3 Mm

    Scale Might
    1 50 kg
    2 6 ton
    3 781 ton
    4 97 kton
    5 12 Mton
    6 1 Gton
    7 190 Gton
    8 23 Tton
    9 2 Pton
    10 372 Pton

    Scale Speed
    1 15 km/h
    2 75 km/h
    3 375 km/h
    4 1 Mm/h
    5 9 Mm/h
    6 46 Mm/h
    7 234 Mm/h
    8 1171 Mm/h
    9 5859 Mm/h
    10 2% C

    Scale [Speed]
    1 75 km/h
    2 1 Mm/h
    3 46 Mm/h
    4 1171 Mm/h
    5 2% C
    6 73% C
    7 18 C (Warp 3)
    8 457 C (Warp 7)
    9 11444 C (Warp 9,99)
    10 286102 C (Warp 10?)

    Edit: Tab doesn’t work, so I made 4 individual tables.
    Last edited by Mateus Luz; 08-15-2019, 07:16 AM.

  • #2
    I don't think anything in Trinity Continuum allows for FTL travel aside from teleportation does it?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by tragedyjones View Post
      I don't think anything in Trinity Continuum allows for FTL travel aside from teleportation does it?
      That’s what I said, 6 is the maximum scale for space speed, but I added the rest just to complete the table and as a matter of curiosity. Just ignore the rest if you prefer.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mateus Luz View Post
        Scale Might
        1 50 kg
        2 6 ton
        3 781 ton
        4 97 kton
        5 12 Mton
        6 1 Gton
        7 190 Gton
        8 23 Tton
        9 2 Pton
        10 372 Pton
        Mateus Luz, to Might Scale I use only a x25 multiplier, I think in adjust this because the Mega-Lifting Mega-Edge. The result is:
        Scale Might (x25)
        0 10 kg
        1 50 kg
        2 1,25 tons
        3 31,25 tons
        4 781,25 tons
        5 19,5 ktons
        6 488 ktons
        7 12,2 Mtons
        8 305 Mtons
        9 7,6 Gtons
        10 190 Gtons
        Using a x5 mutiplier the result is:
        Scale Might (x5)
        0 10 kg
        1 50 kg
        2 250 kg
        3 1,25 tons
        4 6,25 tons
        5 31,25 tons
        6 156 tons
        7 780 tons
        8 4 ktons
        9 19,5 ktons
        10 98 ktons
        11 490 ktons
        12 2,5 Mtons
        13 12,2 Mtons
        14 61,0 Mtons
        15 305 Mtons
        16 1,5 Gtons
        17 7,6 Gtons
        18 38,1 Gtons
        19 190,7 Gtons
        20 1 Ttons

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        • #5
          That’s a real option. But than you need to define that there are things beyond scale 10.

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          • #6
            So two questions on the charts. What is Mm/h? I know it’s something an hour but not sure what.

            Also shadowninja is the , meant to be a .? As in 1.25 tons? Or as 1 and 1/4 tons?

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            • #7
              The problem I have with the idea of totally divorcing scale from numbers would be the problem of “I can lift a building or fly like a jet” yet they are scale one. So I’m not sure how you can reall separate the two.
              Now having a bit of flex, becoming more flexible at higher scale makes some sense. Especially because bodies don’t always perform the same day by day or even machines. Machines may have a more standard outcome results but they are not a 100% constant.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Fuzzykuma View Post
                So two questions on the charts. What is Mm/h? I know it’s something an hour but not sure what.

                Also shadowninja is the , meant to be a .? As in 1.25 tons? Or as 1 and 1/4 tons?
                Mm = Megameter, like a kilometer but 1000 times larger. So 1Mm/h is 1000km/h

                The “,” is working as a “.” In Latin America we use dot to break the thousands and coma to mark the decimals. It’s the oficial way here, and even Excel works this way.

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                • #9
                  Mateus Luz is right, I used "," as ".".

                  I am working in a new table using a few descriptions in the book (Core, Aeon and Aberrant) as reference. Example, in the Mega-Speed description states a sport-car as a Scale 4 and a supersonic speed as Scale 6 (Jet Fighter speed, the fastest Jet Fighter reaches 3000 km/h).
                  To Lifting I think in another solution: create a relative scale similar to Speed Scale and Space Scale.

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