So... Prometheus Unbound

[Mateus Luz]

Speaking of Telepathy, I wouldn't mind seeing some kind of offensive use of telepathic powers described in P.U. Even if it's just giving people a "sleep" command.

Command (Psychybending 2) can command to sleep, it’s a minor effect when out of action, increase a bit if in combat, but yet possible.
Exacerbate and Inflict Emotions (Rapport 2 and 4) can both be used to cause self damage. It’s evil, but you can cause suicidal thoughts related to guilty and other feelings. Command can force a person to kill themself, or at least try.

[LordHeru]

I'm actually really looking forward to seeing how we can use the psi ratings for things that are related but slightly sideways to the actual modes in the book.

Example being the potential for say an enemy psion to indoctrinate people using Telepathy or the ability of a TK to create say super materials by rearraging molecules and such. Plus other things.

Also, while I know its going to focus on Psions I do hope there are some Psiad love - maybe some mention of how those with dots in multiple aptitudes and modes could combine effects. If they have to focus on the whole teamwork rules I am okay as long as they say "this works if a psiad has both dots".

[Tegyrius]

Example being the potential for say an enemy psion to indoctrinate people using Telepathy or the ability of a TK to create say super materials by rearraging molecules and such. Plus other things.

I did get to write the best use ever for Selective Permeability.

- C.

[LordHeru]

I did get to write the best use ever for Selective Permeability.

- C.

Just hearing that such variant or specific uses for the powers is in the book makes me giddy. I don't even need to know what that is yet to be happy that such things are in the book.

So yeah, awesome!

[Sakii]

Command can force a person to kill themself, or at least try.

Didnt Command had a clause for no self-harm?

[Mateus Luz]

Didnt Command had a clause for no self-harm?

Indeed, not only on self harm, but also on breaking bounds. To make a person kill themself the Telepath needs to use Possession and cause all the damage while keep control over the target.

[johntfs]

Didnt Command had a clause for no self-harm?

Sure, but figure that's for no obvious/direct self-harm - or harm to others for that matter. I remember something from Asimov's Robots novels with the three laws of robotics, one of which was "No robot can harm a human or, through inaction allow a human to come to harm."

However, one way around that would be to tell one robot to "Pour this liquid in to that empty cup and then delete that action from your memory banks." The robot does this (and the liquid is a poison/allergen/otherwise deadly when consumed). Then you tell the robot "Pour tea into the cup and then serve the cup Person X." Assuming Person X drinks the tea and dies, he robot has effectively (if unwittingly) helped to murder somebody despite the law.

You could probably use Mind Control to similar effect. Like there's a gap between two areas with a 400 foot drop in normal gravity. A telepath could create the mental illusion of a sturdy, safe bridge across the gap, use Mind Control and tell somebody to walk across the bridge. At which point "Ahhh" *Splat*

[No One of Consequence]

I remember the film Push, where one of the villains has one of his failed henchmen kill himself by psychic-pushing him to believe it's OK to obey the command to shoot himself in the head with a false memory of unloading his gun.

[Mateus Luz]

Push give a very good idea of how to deal with powerful telepathy.

[Sakii]

Sure, but figure that's for no obvious/direct self-harm - or harm to others for that matter. I remember something from Asimov's Robots novels with the three laws of robotics, one of which was "No robot can harm a human or, through inaction allow a human to come to harm."

However, one way around that would be to tell one robot to "Pour this liquid in to that empty cup and then delete that action from your memory banks." The robot does this (and the liquid is a poison/allergen/otherwise deadly when consumed). Then you tell the robot "Pour tea into the cup and then serve the cup Person X." Assuming Person X drinks the tea and dies, he robot has effectively (if unwittingly) helped to murder somebody despite the law.

You could probably use Mind Control to similar effect. Like there's a gap between two areas with a 400 foot drop in normal gravity. A telepath could create the mental illusion of a sturdy, safe bridge across the gap, use Mind Control and tell somebody to walk across the bridge. At which point "Ahhh" *Splat*

Oh yes, if you take a creative approach of course it ok. Its fun that way.

You could also use a mental command to make someone do something stupid in the middle of a gun-fight and getting himself killed.

You just cant spam Command Word: Kill and be done with it.

[Lian]

I'm a big fan of "Shoot your friend" and have been since 1e vampire...

[Sakii]

Im more like, "go pick up that bottle" (and abandon cover in the process).

[NewK]

I noticed that this book is listed as "in development." Does that mean that the first and second drafts have been done?

[Bunyip]

Yes, indeed. 😁

[LordHeru]

I kind of really hope its moved along the chain to us getting say a pdf release. Same with me hoping Terra Firma goes to pod soon, cause I watz it on my shelf.