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  • [Æon] Psiads aptitude combination

    Psiads can combine their aptitudes to creatively modify their powers.
    I think that this is a wonderful ability that sets them apart from psions.

    We all know that the combination of biokinesis and vitakinesis allows you to use biokinesis on other subjects. This is a game changing ability.

    But, apart from that, what can these combinations do?
    Is there any reference of key abilities unlocked by having certain aptitudes or modes?

    Also, this aptitude combination can be done with all your powers, or only those in your primary aptitudes?

  • #2
    From bottoms up:

    The aptitude/mode combination is part of the psi combo, so all the character modes should be combinable.

    There is still no list of combining results, but we may see in the PU book coming soon, that talks about Psi and the Psi Orders.

    I, personally would allow (just a few examples):
    - Anyone with PK to use their touch powers at anyone in range of the sensory power (VK Powers, psicometry, transmassassion, etc)
    - Anyone with Clair to be able to use sensory powers at the target of the Clair power (for example using Space sense or distant touch), including past and future.
    - Anyone with TP to use their other powers at range, real range, like using PK in an object the other side of the solar system, as long can sense it (using Clair or with a live camera for example)
    - Combining QK and EK I would allow to use the precision of EK to shoot virtually any kind of energy, not only lasers and microwave, but gravity, sonic, ionizing radiation, etc (QK can only create areas of effect).


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    • #3
      Originally posted by Vjornin View Post
      Also, this aptitude combination can be done with all your powers, or only those in your primary aptitudes?
      The psiad can combine any Aptitudes they have dots in.


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      • #4
        A psiad character I am working will be focusing on combining Vitakinetics and Quantumkinetics in an attempt to recreate the Quantum Flux Disease cures that were lost when the Chitra Bhanu were Purged by the other Psi Orders. However, it is also that very purge that has convinced her to keep her Psiad abilities hidden as she doesn't trust any of the Psi-Orders due to their actions during that event and with the Upeo Wa Macho disappearance five years after that.

        Currently she is trying to study Quantum Flux zones first hand by offering her services as a field medic to both Project Ceto of the Aeon Trinity and Operation Panecea, both of whom regularly send units into such zones to deal with Aberrants and sub-aberrant mutants. While she does use her abilities of Perikinesis to protect herself and those she treats with Iatrosis, no one yet suspects this is more than her skill as a combat medic (and that she is careful not to draw attention to the use of these Modes). She has yet to develop her psychic abilities beyond these two modes (as she is only a starting character).


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        • #5
          I believe curing Quantum Flux diseases was described as being as simple as using Quantakinesis to suppress quantum energies, then using Vitakinesis to heal the patient before the energies return.

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          • #6
            Simple to do, yes. But it requires more QK than an Auxiliary Mode can give. As soon as you do it, (metaphorical) alarm bells will go off for everyone around you.


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            • #7
              Not as much as you might think.

              While many psychic abilities can be rather "flashy" when used, this precise use of Quantakinetics (Fundamentals) and Vitakinetics (Iatrosis) doesn't have to be... it can be done subtlety without many people knowing it has even happened. Sure, if the disease was known to be a Corruption disease, people might wonder how it was cured, but since the average person isn't likely to have a lot of technical knowledge of medicine, they aren't likely to dig too deeply into the how since they are more likely to just be relieved that it happened.

              Professionals might be more questioning of the methods, but unless they are Psions, their investigations are likely to assume a misdiagnosis as the answer since other possibilities are likely to be ruled as not possible. True, Corruption diseases were originally cured thanks to the Quantakinetics of Chitra Bhanu, but everyone "knows" that they were all killed in the Purge in 2111. Even if there were survivors, it is clear that the character couldn't be one of them as the Character would only have been 11 years old at the time of the Purge, too young to be a likely Latent brought into the Order. Thus, even if the "cure" could be linked to the character, investigations will show that they were never a Quantakinetic Psion.

              That said, it is possible that an investigator might have access to further information that isn't readily available to the public (such as a Minerva Agent), but even here the investigator isn't likely to get many questions answered. Assuming that such an investigator is able to learn that members of the Chitra Bhanu survived and was able to question them, it would confirm that the Character wasn't part of the Order during the Purge. It might also confirm that the character hasn't been brought into the Order now that the Prometheus Chamber has been rebuilt (assuming that the investigator can learn of this detail). This more or less confirms that the character isn't a Psion. This may lead a Minerva Agent to suspect the character might be a Psiad, but with no evidence that Psiads actually exist, proving this suspicion will be very difficult.

              Yes, there are likely to be a lot of questions around how the character does what they do, but given everything else that is likely going on at the time... dealing with the Chromatics and Aberrants, not to mention the Coalition and a lot of other, more pressing matters, it is unlikely that a lot of effort will be made to investigate the recovery of people with supposedly "incurable" diseases. That the caharacter isn't announcing to the world what they are doing will likely go a long way to keeping them under the radar for some time... just a faceless hero among the crowd.
              Last edited by Shadowstripe; 03-27-2021, 02:54 PM.


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              • #8
                Originally posted by Shadowstripe View Post
                Not as much as you might think.
                Whatever works for your game, of course, but much more than what you think based on the set-up you’ve proposed.

                While many psychic abilities can be rather "flashy" when used, this precise use of Quantakinetics (Fundamentals) and Vitakinetics (Iatrosis) doesn't have to be... it can be done subtlety without many people knowing it has even happened. Sure, if the disease was known to be a Corruption disease, people might wonder how it was cured, but since the average person isn't likely to have a lot of technical knowledge of medicine, they aren't likely to dig too deeply into the how since they are more likely to just be relieved that it happened.
                The character specifically isn’t hanging around the average person:

                offering her services as a field medic to both Project Ceto of the Aeon Trinity and Operation Panece
                Two groups who know all about Corruption, Corruption diseases, and being on the lookout for indications of rogue Chitra Bhanu survivors.

                Professionals might be more questioning of the methods, but unless they are Psions, their investigations are likely to assume a misdiagnosis as the answer since other possibilities are likely to be ruled as not possible.
                This assumes a large amount of ignorance and incompetence from people who’s professions are studying/treating Corruption in Corruption areas.

                True, Corruption diseases were originally cured thanks to the Quantakinetics of Chitra Bhanu, but everyone "knows" that they were all killed in the Purge in 2111.
                Just as everyone knows there are persistent rumours of rogues surviving, and to be watchful for them.

                Even if there were survivors, it is clear that the character couldn't be one of them as the Character would only have been 11 years old at the time of the Purge, too young to be a likely Latent brought into the Order. Thus, even if the "cure" could be linked to the character, investigations will show that they were never a Quantakinetic Psion.
                Fair points, which will be of great interest to Project Pandora.

                This may lead a Minerva Agent to suspect the character might be a Psiad, but with no evidence that Psiads actually exist, proving this suspicion will be very difficult.
                As above, Minerva have nothing to do with this. It’s Pandora you need to worry about, “Many of whom are psions themselves”.

                You’re also underplaying the fact that QK Fundamentals isn’t unknown as an Auxiliary Mode. And that even though it’s harder to make than other Aptitude’s technology, biotech manufacturers can replicate the effects of low level QK, such as Basic Powers identifying Aberrant power use as well as psi use and what Aptitude, Modes, and levels were used. Devices likely to be quite popular with Aeon departments aimed at the study of Aberrants and their powers. Like Project Ceto.

                But like I said at the top, what works for your game is the most important aspect, and SGs can handwave a lot of points of detection so a character can work. But, in the interests of ensuring drama and intrigue in a story, other SGs are going to take logical steps and have more people start to notice the character’s unusual profile, and start to look closer.


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                • #9
                  Yet with all the resources at the disposal of Project Pandora, they have only been able to confirm the existence of a single Psiad, and that one had become a Proxy before they even knew she existed. It seems that you are also underestimating just how hard it is to confirm the existence of Psiads.

                  More to the point, while curing Corruption diseases may be a goal my character has, they are a long way from achieving it. The character is still fairly new to their power and doesn't fully understand the implications of what they are, and thus is unsure of who they can trust with this knowledge. So far the character has only developed the Psychokinetic mode of Perikinesis and the Vitakinetic mode of Iatrosis to any reliable degree of control. It will be some time before the character tries to move beyond the modes of these two Aptitudes, let alone raise their Psi rating to 3 to allow them to potentially develop Quantakinetic modes. It will likely be years (in game and out of game) before the character has the skill and power to even attempt to cure a Corruption disease, by which time it is possible that the Second Aberrant has caused the hiding Chitra Bhanu to reveal themselves to help defend humanity (assuming events happen as described in Aeon).

                  This is a long-term asperation of the character, one that isn't likely to be achieved quickly, especially since the character still needs time to research the Corruption Zones, Aberrants and the nature of Corruption diseases (and doing so as a field/combat medic without a full lab and equipment is going to take time). It is possible that the character may not reach the point where they can even try to accomplish this asperation... given the rather dangerous nature of what the character is researching.

                  By the time this character tries to accomplish this Asperation, they will likely be both very skilled and quite powerful (maybe not Psi 6 yet, but potentially close to achieving that too). The character will be quite a seasoned individual and may have some powerful contacts that can help keep their Psiad nature a closely guarded secret (assuming such contacts know their secret). Don't underestimate just how difficult it may be to ascertain the existence of a Psiad that doesn't want to be found.


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Shadowstripe View Post
                    Don't underestimate just how difficult it may be to ascertain the existence of a Psiad that doesn't want to be found.
                    I can assure you, I am not.


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