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  • Why aren't there more Nova politicians?

    I wanted to know if you had any explanation why, unlike that russian Nova who's the ministry of Economy, there aren't more Novas in governments. Now, personally I think that this is partly due to Utopia, Elite Agencies and other organizations poaching them since they appeared for the first time (Maybe the Directive also has something to do with this trend). Also, how do think would happen if more Novas chose to become politicians in the future?

  • #2
    wasn't China's entire economic system redone by a nova...and a good deal of their national defense network (if memory serves). Those aren't quite elected officials but you get the point. (sometimes I get 1e and 2e confused).

    Also, it is quite unfortunate but people tend to vote for those they can "relate to" that probably wouldn't be novas in a democracy. Too often it just comes down to the lowest common denominator.

    Novas do have an advantage of mega charisma/appeal/manipulation/intelligence etc. but how valued is this by the public at large? Also, without several specific mega-social mega edges it would only apply in person, and even then likely be limited to groups of say around 500 people or so...that may not be quite enough to get over the "otherness hump" and unless they are also mega intelligent they likely wouldn't do a better job than the other candidate...

    Would you want to make all the decisions for a pack of wolves, or colony of ants?


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    • #3
      Also, motivation & numbers - remember there are only a few thousand Novas across the whole planet.
      How many of those thousand people would take trying a political over being Superman, Batman/Bruce Wayne, Magneto, Goku or what have you?

      When you have superpowers, why shackle oneself to the labyrinthine workings of the wage slave pyramid? Mindset and motivation are key, i guess.

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      • #4
        Well, Sierka is running Russia, so there's at least one canonical Nova 'politician'. There are probably also some warlords of various sorts as well.

        But in terms of the legitimately elected, the vast majority of Nova mega-social stuff doesn't work over media like TV, which is where politicians need to do their stuff to effect large numbers. Only Telepresence allows that, and Telepresence is pricey (a net total of 4 points on top of the actual mega-social stuff they have) and thus presumably rare. And then the Nova would have to want to be a political figure, and the low number of Novas makes the number who want that vanishingly small. If we figure that 1 in 4 Novas are Mega-Social to some degree, then one in 20 of those have Telepresence, that's 1 in 80 Novas who have this combo, which (at 2000 Novas) makes for 25 Novas worldwide who even can do this any better than a Baseline, and of those many are not gonna want to pursue politics (the book implies Narcosis has this power set, but she's both Teragen, which is bound to cause social problems with running for office, and went the 'celebrity' route instead of politician). Of those who do wish to pursue politics, humans can achieve Leadership scale circumstantially pretty well, and social Talents with 'The Bigger They Are' can oppose them even without that, so they aren't exactly unopposed even if they have an advantage.

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        • #5
          1. Why be the leader of one country when you could pull the strings of all of them behind the scenes? There might be several novas with an active hand in politics, just not ones running as candidates.

          2. Perhaps any Nova with the social skills (particularly manipulation) to be that amazing Nova super-politician can see the writing on the wall about what's coming and knows enough to avoid the spotlight. A nova leader in a time of incredible social upheaval runs the risk of getting his head removed.

          3. They might not need to. Instead of getting into politics to get people working together to achieve some major goal, a nova might simply have the power to go do it directly, or if those goals are of the more humanitarian sort, Project Utopia offers an option. For the less humanitarian sort, the Teragen presumably discourages mingling that much with the mundanes.

          And if novas started getting into politics, you know how the sentence goes- die a hero or live long enough to become a villian.

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          • #6
            Also, some of them are in politics, just not in official politics:
            Raoul Orzaiz
            Sophia Rousseau
            Andy Vance
            Doctor Worm
            Geryon
            Corby Carter

            I know that this is in 1e. But it can be maintained in 2e.

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            • #7
              I wound say a Nova occupying a elected/official position would be much less powerful than a Nova working extra officially. It’s a matter of rules to do things in the correct and less corrupt way, Novas when do certain actions would be considered doing illegal things if done by politicians. Let’s say, a nova convince the guy to offer more or less for something, in the “open world” it would be kind of ok, but in the political world there are procedures and rules to be followed.

              The constitutions of the countries starts by the principal of equality or at least same capacities among the people, and novas break it, so it breaks some of the laws by very existence (not even talking about physics laws).


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              • #8
                It would probably be easier for a nova with the right powers become a warlord and then build their own country from the ground up. If they did it right they could be seen as a humanitarian uplifting the downtrodden masses from the oppression of a tyrant or despot. With the right territory and tactical mind he could build his own nation and calling in a few favours from his fellow novas or some teragan faction who wants to see a nova run nation, and you could have a country that is run by novas with baselines as a well treated 2nd class or something.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Vjornin View Post
                  Also, some of them are in politics, just not in official politics:
                  Raoul Orzaiz
                  Sophia Rousseau
                  Andy Vance
                  Doctor Worm
                  Geryon
                  Corby Carter

                  I know that this is in 1e. But it can be maintained in 2e.

                  Aside from Dr. Worm and Corby Carrter, all those are very much still explicitly in 2e, and all still involved in politics, or as much as they ever were (though Sophia Rousseau is a Psiad).
                  Last edited by Deadmanwalking; 08-29-2021, 12:30 AM.

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