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    http://theonyxpath.com/allegiance-9-trinity-continuum/


    Ian A. A. Watson
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  • #2
    Very nice!


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    • #3
      This is just the sort of thing I've been waiting to see! Good, good.

      Now how about the Aeon Society?


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      • #4
        Much more highly regarded than the Allegiance: ⑨.

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        • #5
          Umm . . . What era were you thinking, for "Nine"? To be brutally honest . . . they don't really appear to fit any of the core eras. And it seems like they'd be occupying the same "space" as other factions: Project Utopia (the ties to the UN) and the Directive (the espionage angle), for example

          On the other hand, "Nine" seems like it'd make an interesting addition to the World/Chronicles of Darkness. A group of superspies, on the brink of discovering just how deep the rabbit hole goes . . . Seems like it'd be a great story starter

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          • #6
            Originally posted by One Vorlon View Post
            Umm . . . What era were you thinking, for "Nine"? To be brutally honest . . . they don't really appear to fit any of the core eras. And it seems like they'd be occupying the same "space" as other factions: Project Utopia (the ties to the UN) and the Directive (the espionage angle), for example

            On the other hand, "Nine" seems like it'd make an interesting addition to the World/Chronicles of Darkness. A group of superspies, on the brink of discovering just how deep the rabbit hole goes . . . Seems like it'd be a great story starter
            Looks to be present-day, the era of the TC corebook.


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            • #7
              The core Trinity Continuum rulebook contains a modern-day setting.

              Overlap with the Directive is entirely reasonable, given the hints within the text that 9 will later become the Directive.


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              • #8
                Actually I'd prefer the Directive to split off from 9. When 9 merges with the U.N. of course it could further split that remains a private corporation.
                However I like 9 as written.

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                • #9
                  Are we going to have a version of hydra for this game? Perhaps something not so blatantly evil, but definitively nefarious?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by IanWatson View Post
                    The core Trinity Continuum rulebook contains a modern-day setting.
                    Hmm . . . Could you give us a hint at what you're thinking about, timeline-wise? When it came out, Aberrant was set roughly ten years in the future (ca. 2008), and this description of "Nine" seems to pull the "pulp" feel of Adventure dangerously close to the comic book-esque novas.

                    Overlap with the Directive is entirely reasonable, given the hints within the text that 9 will later become the Directive.
                    Two concerns with that. The first might just be a typo, actually. If "Nine" was privatized in the Seventies, then it didn't happen under President Reagan (who was inaugurated in the Eighties). The Seventies were the era of Nixon/Ford/Carter. And, in context, its unlikely Reagan would've gotten rid of such a group - he was a big believer in building up the U.S.'s military and covert intelligence capabilities (Star Wars, Iran-Contra . . . )

                    If we're picking a President to privatize the firm . . . maybe Carter, or possibly Bush 41 (as a former CIA director, he could well have had a private feud with the group). However, my money would be on President Clinton, who was a firm believer in the post-Cold War "peace dividend".

                    My second concern involves Nine getting involved with the U.N. Security Council. The five permanent members of the Security Council (US, Great Britain, France, Russia, and China) all have a veto on any proposed policy . . . and there's no way Russia and China are going to be okay with giving an American intelligence agency (even a supposedly privatized one) license to snoop around in their affairs. Maybe, maybe you could bribe/blackmail/frighten China into abstaining (rather than vetoing), but Russia . . . Hell will freeze over, and the Pope will come out as a Taoist, long before Russia even thinks about it.

                    Policy-wise, the Putin Regime is deeply concerned (bordering on paranoid) about Western entities expanding into the former Soviet block - Ukraine flirting with joining NATO is often cited as one of the key reasons for the Russian invasion, for example. It also wants to reassert Russian hegemony over the region, seeing the collapse of the Soviet Union as one of the great geopolitical disasters of the 20th Century. And its very fond of using covert actions by the FSB (the re-organized KGB) to suppress dissent (the Polonium poisonings, for example).

                    In light of that, there's just no way that the Putin Regime would ever be okay with an American spy agency running loose in their country. And Aberrant is quite clear that Russia is a major backer (and stronghold) of the Directive. . .

                    Given the pre-existing dynamics (both real-world and Trinity), the best solution might be to change Nine's country of origin. Off-hand, East Germany's Stasi (secret police) look promising as a parent organization. With the fall of the Berlin Wall, you'd have a lot of highly trained spooks suddenly out of work, with strong ties to Russia, and in need of something else to do with their time. It even sets up some of the friction/paranoia the Directive has towards the (U.S.-based) Aeon Society.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by One Vorlon View Post
                      Hmm . . . Could you give us a hint at what you're thinking about, timeline-wise? When it came out, Aberrant was set roughly ten years in the future (ca. 2008), and this description of "Nine" seems to pull the "pulp" feel of Adventure dangerously close to the comic book-esque novas.
                      Aberrant is set in 2028.


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by One Vorlon View Post

                        My second concern involves Nine getting involved with the U.N. Security Council. The five permanent members of the Security Council (US, Great Britain, France, Russia, and China) all have a veto on any proposed policy . . . and there's no way Russia and China are going to be okay with giving an American intelligence agency (even a supposedly privatized one) license to snoop around in their affairs. Maybe, maybe you could bribe/blackmail/frighten China into abstaining (rather than vetoing), but Russia . . . Hell will freeze over, and the Pope will come out as a Taoist, long before Russia even thinks about it.
                        Two things - non-Americans in charge could go a long way. Also if the UN charter happened in the 90s and the Russian oligarchs are well invested, the Yeltsin government would have been way less hostile than the Putin government would be.

                        That said, I'm inclined to ignore the Security Council involvement in favor of them being a completely private entity, and just assume the UN charter came with the transformation into the Directive when Russia and China has a uniting concern with the US government (rogue Novas and "Utopia" overturning superpower preeminence).


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Firanai View Post
                          Are we going to have a version of hydra for this game? Perhaps something not so blatantly evil, but definitively nefarious?

                          *looks at Project Proteus*


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                          • #14
                            First Branch 9 was multinational, Russia etc all had the equivalent. While each country had a branch that was the original source of the letters it easily could be argued the other nations folded Branch 9 into their own intelligence and police agencies with the majority of Branch 9 dying during the Second World War or even going rogue all of the Allied governments made deals with various NAZI scientists. The Directive arising from Russia could easily be the Russian version of Branch 9 emerging from the shadows of the NKVD, KGB, FSB and resuming its former role.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by One Vorlon View Post
                              Hmm . . . Could you give us a hint at what you're thinking about, timeline-wise? When it came out, Aberrant was set roughly ten years in the future (ca. 2008), and this description of "Nine" seems to pull the "pulp" feel of Adventure dangerously close to the comic book-esque novas.
                              Keep in mind that the TC core is going to cover a lot of modern day action-adventure style storytelling, and these days more than a little of that is done with a modern-day pulp-ish or noir-ish aesthetic. It might not be as over the top as 'vintage' pulp can get ("Oh, but you can help us, because I figured out you're secretly the villain's twin brother, but your more athletic build and different hair keep people from spotting it!"), but doing a game in the vein of Leverage or Warehouse 13 is going to come across as very pulp-y regardless of the visual trappings and tech level.


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